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Post Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:25 pm 
 

I was wondering.  If someone send you money through Paypal and you move the money into your bank account, then they make a claim.  Will Paypal take the money out of your bank account or charge your credit card?

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:55 pm 
 

I don't think they can do either. Your paypal account will go negative for that dollar amount (or whatever balance you arrive at). You will get a notice that your account is in need of attention.

I had this happen when I got hit with a huge chargeback and they "held" the funds until they confirmed my tracking number for the transaction. It took them almost a week. They guy received the items and hit me with a chargeback the next freaking day. He would not reply to emails...surprise, surprise. I transferred funds from my bank account immediately to cover the difference as I wanted to use my account.

Getting back to your question. I don't know how long that will go before they begin collection procedures. Probably 30 days. But I do not believe they can simply go after your bank account or credit card. I do believe they need your approval to do that, credit card only. No way they can deduct from your bank account.

So, in short, no, they cannot simply hit your bank account or charge card. They have to go after you via a collections department or agency to get their cash. And you can damn well bet they will.


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Post Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:05 pm 
 

bbarsh wrote:I don't think they can do either. Your paypal account will go negative for that dollar amount (or whatever balance you arrive at). You will get a notice that your account is in need of attention.

I had this happen when I got hit with a huge chargeback and they "held" the funds until they confirmed my tracking number for the transaction. It took them almost a week. They guy received the items and hit me with a chargeback the next freaking day. He would not reply to emails...surprise, surprise. I transferred funds from my bank account immediately to cover the difference as I wanted to use my account.

Getting back to your question. I don't know how long that will go before they begin collection procedures. Probably 30 days. But I do not believe they can simply go after your bank account or credit card. I do believe they need your approval to do that, credit card only. No way they can deduct from your bank account.

So, in short, no, they cannot simply hit your bank account or charge card. They have to go after you via a collections department or agency to get their cash. And you can damn well bet they will.


Whether they can or not, they DO have access to your bank account through their confirmation procedure.  Rather than be unpleasantly surprised I have linked my paypal account to a checking account that I empty regularly....

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:43 pm 
 

Badmike wrote:
Whether they can or not, they DO have access to your bank account through their confirmation procedure.  Rather than be unpleasantly surprised I have linked my paypal account to a checking account that I empty regularly....

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The issue gets complicated if they attempt to withdraw the funds from the bank account linked to your paypal.  Your bank might insist on charging overage fees (similar to bouncing a check) when the amount isn't available to transfer.

Since I haven't had it happen (and only had to dispute some things that didn't arrive) to me I can't say for sure how it will all play out.  I would suggest rereading the EULA for paypal though because I'm pretty sure you agree to let them access your account if something like this happens.


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Post Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:18 pm 
 

All I can say is that it was not my experience. My account went negative for about $140 (the charge back was more than $200). I just got a friendly email indicating my account need attention. Suspecting fraudulent email, I closed out and went directly to my account. Bingo. Massive chargeback (pending tracking information). I simply transferred money from my checking account and waited the week it took paypal to reverse the chargeback. Got all my cash back, no problems, other than the inconvenience factor and getting extremeley pissed at the crook of a buyer who tried to pull a fast one.

Paypal never attempted or even suggested a charge against my checking account (I do not have a credit card on file with them). Of course, I only use that checking account for paypal and I transfer cash out to a separte saving account just in case of some sort of event. I don't trust paypal or ebay...


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Post Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:44 pm 
 

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The issue gets complicated if they attempt to withdraw the funds from the bank account linked to your paypal.  Your bank might insist on charging overage fees (similar to bouncing a check) when the amount isn't available to transfer.

Since I haven't had it happen (and only had to dispute some things that didn't arrive) to me I can't say for sure how it will all play out.  I would suggest rereading the EULA for paypal though because I'm pretty sure you agree to let them access your account if something like this happens.


In the USA this is exactly what can happen. if you have paypal linked to a bank account they have approval to take funds from that account and will do so. If you do not have enough funds to cover that amount it will depend on your banks charge for an overdraft. (My bank charges around $50 and $6 a day)

  

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:28 pm 
 

Mars wrote:I was wondering.  If someone send you money through Paypal and you move the money into your bank account, then they make a claim.  Will Paypal take the money out of your bank account or charge your credit card?

I can't speek for Canada, but in the UK PayPal can only remove money from your bank account that you have specifically given them permission to remove. The most they can do in the UK is set your account into a negative ballance and freeze access to your account until such times as your account is brought back into credit. They can however claim funds sent to your PayPal account from subsequent transactions, and search their accounts for other PayPal accounts held by you and freeze those also. As regards making an unauthorized withdrawl from your bank account or a credit card on your account, in the UK that is a big no-no.


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Post Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:12 am 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:I can't speek for Canada, but in the UK PayPal can only remove money from your bank account that you have specifically given them permission to remove. The most they can do in the UK is set your account into a negative ballance and freeze access to your account until such times as your account is brought back into credit. They can however claim funds sent to your PayPal account from subsequent transactions, and search their accounts for other PayPal accounts held by you and freeze those also. As regards making an unauthorized withdrawl from your bank account or a credit card on your account, in the UK that is a big no-no.


This was exactly my experience. Although I resolved it almost immediately. I am pretty sure the U.S. policy is the same.


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