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Post Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:19 pm 
 

I've been collecting for a while but I'd never known this. The Minifigs Fantasy Folk line is actually part of the World of Greyhawk line. I bought a bunch of these recently and was amazed that they were made under licence. Is this news to anyone else?

http://s419.photobucket.com/albums/pp27 ... yFolk2.jpg

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:15 pm 
 

I recall having #13 at one point (I think it's gone now). At the time, I didn't care if a miniature was 'official' or not. Strangely, I missed out on some things in book form because they weren't 'official' TSR D&D products.

The follies of a 13-14 (?) year old.

All-in-all, from what I remember, I wasn't greatly impressed with the few I saw back then. They seemed 'smaller' than the other minis as well.

  


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Post Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:19 pm 
 

Yup!

The best thing about the WoG minis is that the advert sheet gives complete weaponry details for troops of the various kingdoms (Furyondy, Wild Coast cities, etc.).

  


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Post Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:28 pm 
 

I'd still like to get an enthroned Iuz with evil halflings, among others!


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Post Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:43 pm 
 

I've got a collection of photos of many of the WoG figures over at my Greyhawk Grognard blog:

http://greyhawkgrognard.blogspot.com/2008/06/minifigs-greyhawk-miniatures.html

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:30 pm 
 

I'm not well-versed in minis, but I believe Icar is referring to a "Fantasy Folk" line of figures from Minifigs that is distinct from the line of figures explicitly labeled as "World of Greyhawk" (which are detailed in Joe's excellent page linked above).

Icar: is there a product list for the Fantasy Folk line?

I once posted the list of WoG figures from a TSR catalog. So, just to confirm: the Fantasy Folk figures are different from these WoG figures?

viewtopic.php?t=4298&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=66

Zenopus76 wrote:
Mini Figs WORLD OF GREYHAWK Approved and authorized by TSR
from the TSR Dungeon Hobby Shop March 1981 catalog

WOG1-45 - $3.98

WOG01  Amazon Infantry (6) swords, flails -- Hardby (Wild Coast)
WOG02  Amazon Infantry (6) axes, spears, bow, polearm - Hardby (Wild Coast)
WOG03  Amazon Cavalry (3) spears, bow - Hardby (Wild Coast)
WOG04  Amazon Cavalry (3) swords, axe - Hardby (Wild Coast)
WOG05  Berserker Mercenaries (6) swords, spears, javelins -- Wild Coast/Pomarj
WOG06  Hireling Men-at-Arms (6) axes, spears, bows -- Wild Coast petty kingdoms
WOG07  Men-at-Arms of the Watch (6) axes, spears, bows - Greyhawk
WOG08  Infantry of the Guilds (6) spears, crossbows - Greyhawk
WOG09  Cavemen (6) spears, clubs -- Cairn Hills
WOG10  Valley Elf Infantry (6) axes, swords -- Valley of the Mage
WOG11  Valley Elf Infantry (6) bows, spears -- Valley of the Mage
WOG12  Valley Elf King & Guards (6) pole-arms -- Valley of the Mage
WOG13  Valley Elf Cavalry (2) lances -- Valley of the Mage
WOG14  Valley Elf Cavalry (2) sword, bow -- Valley of the Mage
WOG15  Mounted Knights (3) lance, sword, axe - Furyondy
WOG16  Knights on Foot (6) swords, axes, pole-arms -- Furyondy
WOG17  Freeholder Infantry (6) spears, bows -- Furyondy/Veluna
WOG18  The Steadfast Pike (6) pikes - Veluna
WOG19  Free City Foot (6) spears, swords, bows - Dyvers
WOG20  Zombie & Skeleton Infantry (6) swords, spears - Iuz
WOG21  Zombie & Skeleton Infantry (6) assorted weapons -- Iuz
WOG22  Goblin Infantry (6) swords, axes - Iuz
WOG23  Goblin Infantry (6) bows, crossbows, hand catapults - Iuz
WOG24  Goblin Chieftain & Guards (6) spears, pole-arms - Iuz
WOG25  Human Forest Warriors (6) swords, axes, spear, pole-arm -- Celene/Ulek
WOG26  Human Forest Warriors (6) bows, crossbows, slings - Celene/Ulek
WOG27  Mounted Knights (3) lance, axe, sword -- Veluna/Verbobonc
WOG28  Heavy Missile Infantry (6) bows, crossbows -- Furyondy/Veluna/Shield Lands
WOG29  Light Missile Infantry (6) bows, crossbows, slings -- Feryondy[sic]/Veluna/Shield Lands
WOG30  Mounted Knights (3) lance, mace, sword -- Shield Lands
WOG31  Knights on Foot (6) swords, axes, pole-arms -- Shield Lands
WOG32  Freeholder Infantry (6) spears, bows -- Shield Lands
WOG33  Esquire (Medium) Horse (3) lance, sword, axe - Furyondy/Veluna/Shield Lands
WOG34  Brethren Foot Guards (4) spears -- Scarlet Brotherhood
WOG35  Hierarch, Headsman, Amazon Captive on Torture Stake -- Horned Society
WOG36  Ice or Snow Barbarian Foot (6) swords, bows -- Lands of Snow & Ice Barbarians
WOG37  Ice or Snow Barbarian Foot (6) axes, spears - Lands of Snow & Ice Barbarians
WOG38  Ice or Snow Barbarian Cavalry (3) spears - Lands of Snow & Ice Barbarians
WOG39  Ice or Snow Barbarian Cavalry (3) spears, scything axe - Lands of Snow & Ice Barbarians
WOG40  Mounted Knights (3) lance, mace, sword -- Bandit Kingdoms
WOG41  Brigand Infantry (6) swords, spears, bows -- Celene/Ulek/Cairn Hills
WOG42  Halfling Fighters (6) swords, axes, spear, bow -Celene/Ulek/Cairn Hills
WOG43  Wandering Adventurers, magic user, cleric, bard, halfling thief [no territory given for WOG43-48]
WOG44  Heroic Mercenary Foot (5) axes, spear, bow
WOG45  Heroic Mercenary Foot (5) swords

WOG46-56 - $4.98

WOG46  Heroic Mercenary Cavalry (2) swords
WOG47  Heroic Mercenary Cavalry (2) short sword, spear
WOG48  Heroic Mercenary Cavalry (2) morning star, bow

WOG49  Elite Death-Guard Cavalry (2) lances -- Horned Society
WOG50  Overking's Heavy Guard Cavalry (2) lances -- Great Kingdom
WOG51  Overking's Heavy Guard Cavalry (2) axe, sword -- Great Kingdom
WOG52  Overking's Heavy Guard Foot (6) spears, axe, blow-pipe -- Great Kingdom
WOG53  Overking's Heavy Guard Foot (6) pole-arms, swords -- Great Kingdom
WOG54  Wyvern (1) - Celene
WOG55  Harginn Elemental Grue - Elemental of Plain of Fire -(conjured by) Iuz
WOG56  Iuz Enthroned & Evil Halflings (4) - evil demi-god & minions - Iuz

WOG57-59 - $5.98

WOG57  Dragonnel & Lancer (1) - Pomarj
WOG58  Dragonnel & Archer (1) - Pomarj
WOG59  Dragonnel & Pole-axeman (1) - Pomarj

WOG60 - $7.98

WOG60  Magnus Dragonnel (1) - Pomarj

WOG61-72 - not listed in this catalog
WOG61  Dragonnettes (2)
WOG62  Giant Spider, Rat, Beetle
WOG63  Flying Dinosaur, Armored Dinosaur
WOG64  Aquatic Dragonnel (1)
WOG65  Monster Stoppers: Catapult and Dart Thrower
WOG66  Unicorn, Beasts and Hounds
WOG67  Elite Death Guard Cavalry, axe, sword
WOG68  Orcs, sword, pole-arms, bows
WOG69  Gnolls, swords, pole-arms, bows
WOG70  Half-Orcs, various weapons
WOG71  Mounted Men-at-Arms of the Watch
WOG72  Rovers of the Barrens

(Note: actual 1981 catalog entries do not list # of figures)


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Post Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:52 pm 
 

The consensus from this 2008 thread was that the Fantasy Folk figures were not officially licensed AD&D figures:

post-102531.html

However, this seems to be contradicted by the back of the card posted by Icar, which states:

FANTASY FOLK

FANTASY FOLK are the adventurers who descend in search of treasure into the dungeons and crypts beneath the surface of THE WORLD OF GREYHAWK. FANTASY FOLK are also the monsters and creatures who lurk in those dungeons in wait for the hapless adventurer. THE WORLD OF GREYHAWK is the official ADVANCED DUNGEONS & DRAGONS fantasy world setting. ALL AD&D modules are located in (or under) THE WORLD OF GREYHAWK.

If you are looking for adventurers or monsters for your dungeon, you need look no farther than FANTASY FOLK. If entire Fantasy Armies are your interest, then try our THE WORLD OF GREYHAWK Fantasy Miniatures.

THE WORLD OF GREYHAWK are trademarks owned and licensed by TSR HOBBIES, INC.

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Post Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:34 am 
 

Zenopus76 hit it on the head. I am very familiar with the red WOG line but I didn't realize that the fantasy folk minis are also WOG related.

They seem to be 28mm as opposed to 25mm

The ones I have are labeled as follows:

1-3 Magic User
4 Female Magic User
5-7 Cleric
8 Druid
9-
10 Assassin
11 Bard
12 Female Fighter
13-14 Plate Armor Fighter w/two handed sword
15 Plate Armor Fighter w/longsword and shield
16-
17 Plate armor fighter w/mace and shield
18-
19 Plate armor fighter Rider w/heavy lance
20-22 -
23 Dwarf Fighter w/crossbow
24-27-
28 "Arm your own" fighter scale mail
29- 30 -
31 "Arm your own" fighter splint mail
32 -
33 "Arm your own" Dwarf fighter
34 -
35 "Arm your own" shields

  

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Post Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:51 pm 
 

Zenopus76 wrote:However, this seems to be contradicted by the back of the card posted by Icar, which states:

The back of the card does not state that the Fantasy Folk miniatures are WoG.  It implies that through the repeated use of WoG, but it does not explicitly state that the Fantas Folk minis are licensed to be WoG minis.

  


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Post Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:22 pm 
 

JohnGaunt wrote:The back of the card does not state that the Fantasy Folk miniatures are WoG.  It implies that through the repeated use of WoG, but it does not explicitly state that the Fantas Folk minis are licensed to be WoG minis.


"FANTASY FOLK are the adventurers who descend in search of treasure into the dungeons and crypts beneath the surface of THE WORLD OF GREYHAWK."

This line directly links Fantasy Folk to the World of Greyhawk. Is isn't implied, it is stated.

  


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Post Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:40 pm 
 

This line says it all

"...licensed by TSR HOBBIES, INC. "


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Post Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:46 pm 
 

The problem is, it doesn't say that their miniatures are officially licenced products, but only that the World of Greyhawk is a licenced product of TSR. Sounds like they were trying to ride the wave.

I wonder if there was a cease and desist order at some point.  :?:

  


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Post Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:01 pm 
 

Hmm ...

The World of Greyhawk line is certainly more clearly branded as "authorized", with the front of the packaging stating "TSR Presents", "World of Greyhawk TM" and "Approved for use with Advanced Dungeons & Dragons".

Presumably Minifigs licensed the use of the "World of Greyhawk" trademark from TSR, for use in the World of Greyhawk line. But was the use of this trademark on the Fantasy Folk line also specifically authorized under the same or another license? In the absence of evidence to the contrary, I'd presume that because they repeatedly use the trademark, and state that the trademark is licensed from TSR, that these were officially licensed figures. Others may presume differently. They may not be part of the official "World of Greyhawk" line, but Minifigs is certainly making use of the trademark to market them as "for use with" the World of Greyhawk.

There's at least one other line of "authorized" D&D figures from Minifigs:

http://www.stunties.com/wiki/index.php/ ... nd_Dragons

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Post Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:11 am 
 



Stunties on ebay - this is a chap who buys a lot of dwarves!!!! (Insert poor 'small' or 'short' pun as required). I'd bet his specialised collection is second to none (over 3500 feedback, mainly on dwarf minis over the years suggests he's somewhat rabid in his interest) (Not meant as any kind of slight btw - dealt with him once and came across as a decent person, and as fan of Dwarves I'm really quite envious of him)


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Post Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:25 am 
 

I would hazard a guess that they were trying to create a separate line to compete with the other companies making heroic 25mm miniatures. Both Citadel and Grenadier had larger miniatures by 1980 and minifigs was trying to stay in the game.

The FF minis would give them one line for "chainmail" style combat and one for dungeon crawls. I am also guessing that this would be the last of the miniatures produced under license, although I can't find a date anywhere.

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Post Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:16 am 
 

I wanted to keep everyone here in the loop because I figured there may be some interest. I asked the people at TMP and got some great replies.

It appears that the vast majority of these figures are from previous ranges. Many have been converted slightly or in some cases big changes. I leave the valuation of this kind of thing to the Acaeum boards.


http://www.recipesrealm.com/wiki/index.php?title=Fantasy_Folk

and here is the discussion:

http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=183368

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