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Post Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:54 am 
 

I won these a few days ago:



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0364477706



But the seller sent me a message in his invoice with another paypal account address saying the one associated with this eBay account wasn't working... I contacted the seller to verify and he said that it would be up and working in a few days... but I try to pay once or twice a day and it's not working. I've sent the seller a few messages saying I could pay by check or Money Order... but they won't get back to me.



I'm so excited to get those Grenadier figures and I'm giving the core books and the PC sheets to a good friend of mine for his birthday... the rest I will probably resell...



I'm so frustrated!

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Post Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:06 am 
 

TheMilford wrote:I won these a few days ago:


** expired/removed eBay auction **


But the seller sent me a message in his invoice with another paypal account address saying the one associated with this eBay account wasn't working... I contacted the seller to verify and he said that it would be up and working in a few days... but I try to pay once or twice a day and it's not working. I've sent the seller a few messages saying I could pay by check or Money Order... but they won't get back to me.

I'm so excited to get those Grenadier figures and I'm giving the core books and the PC sheets to a good friend of mine for his birthday... the rest I will probably resell...

I'm so frustrated!




Oddly I'm having the exact same problem with a seller who I won a bunch of Polyhedrons from. No contact at all, and he won't send me a combined shipping invoice. I always wonder in these cases if the seller thought the items went too cheap, and if they don't contact the buyer we'll just go away and they can relist and resell the items for hopefully more....



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Post Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:15 am 
 

I'm having a slightly weird problem myself.  I sold a DCC mod on ebay several weeks ago, received a money order from the winner about a week later, but got no shipping address.  Despite many emails, no response, so now it's just sitting on my shelf in case I ever hear from the guy again.  I've never had that happen before.


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Post Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:27 am 
 

What can we do.

Can Ebay find these folks and raid there house for our items? I mean with their dedication to the buyers and all now.

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Post Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:28 am 
 

TheMilford wrote:I won these a few days ago:


** expired/removed eBay auction **


But the seller sent me a message in his invoice with another paypal account address saying the one associated with this eBay account wasn't working... I contacted the seller to verify and he said that it would be up and working in a few days... but I try to pay once or twice a day and it's not working. I've sent the seller a few messages saying I could pay by check or Money Order... but they won't get back to me.

I'm so excited to get those Grenadier figures and I'm giving the core books and the PC sheets to a good friend of mine for his birthday... the rest I will probably resell...

I'm so frustrated!




Something like this happened to me not quite a year ago.  I won an item from a seller and then when I went to pay I found out I couldnt.  I dont remember exactly what happened but the problem ended up being because his PayPal account wasnt setup properly and he couldnt accept payment via credit card.  He had to upgrade his account or something like that and he was able to get it straightened out after a few days.



The guy looks to be a brand new Ebay seller so he probably has no idea what is going on or Ebay/PayPal is giving him the runaround.  It has only been a little over four days so be patient with the guy and give him the benefit of the doubt.


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Post Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:30 am 
 

I'd echo that patience sentiment.  Looks like the guy is into fishing, and that sort generally aren't exactly Type A personalities.   :D


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Post Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:34 am 
 

bombadil wrote:I'm having a slightly weird problem myself.  I sold a DCC mod on ebay several weeks ago, received a money order from the winner about a week later, but got no shipping address.  Despite many emails, no response, so now it's just sitting on my shelf in case I ever hear from the guy again.  I've never had that happen before.


I dont get it.  I assumed Ebay automatically provided the seller with the shipping information of the buyer after the auction closed?  I dont sell on Ebay so I am just assuming.  I havent had to send my shipping information to a seller in a few years.  Is it because you can only accept PayPal now and if the buyer doesnt complete the Ebay checkout process, you stand to not receive the shipping info?


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Post Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:44 am 
 

The buyer's shipping details used to come up if they clicked a button telling the seller payment was coming in the form of check or money order, but the guy didn't do that in this case.  Otherwise, and now that Paypal is the only accepted form of payment, the addy comes with the paypal transfer.


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Post Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:44 am 
 

If you are in a transaction with someone, you can pull their personal information that is logged with Ebay - Name, Shipping address and phone number.  You can go to advanced search, find contact info and then enter the id and item number that you have the transaction with them with.

You will then get an email with the information.

  

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Post Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:11 pm 
 

Kingofpain89 wrote:
I dont get it.  I assumed Ebay automatically provided the seller with the shipping information of the buyer after the auction closed?  I dont sell on Ebay so I am just assuming.  I havent had to send my shipping information to a seller in a few years.  Is it because you can only accept PayPal now and if the buyer doesnt complete the Ebay checkout process, you stand to not receive the shipping info?


Most likely. Since ebay has added check and money order payments to the 10 deadly sins, you can't use regular channels.

And it does not shock me at all that a guy is having trouble getting paid via paypal. Most people do not verify their accounts and that causes all sorts of issues...


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Post Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:48 pm 
 

Badmike wrote:
Oddly I'm having the exact same problem with a seller who I won a bunch of Polyhedrons from. No contact at all, and he won't send me a combined shipping invoice. I always wonder in these cases if the seller thought the items went too cheap, and if they don't contact the buyer we'll just go away and they can relist and resell the items for hopefully more....

Mike B.


Got the invoice today, and with a giant shipping discount. So the guy is golden, just a little slow to send the invoice (won these Friday).  Ah well I've probably done the same once or twice.....

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Post Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:57 pm 
 

The difference is I've contacted my guy 4-5 times and he's only replied once...

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Post Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:56 pm 
 

I wouldn't panic yet.  I've done business with some slow sellers (at both communication and with shipping).  Give it a few more days, I say.

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Post Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:43 am 
 

TheMilford wrote:The difference is I've contacted my guy 4-5 times and he's only replied once...




I would give it a few days. I frequently have to travel for my work and sometimes it is last minute - I am in construction and we also do emergency work - and that can mean I am in an area with now internet service.



So, be a little more patient and then try and contact ebay. 8O


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:19 am 
 

Hi,

last year, the Missus got a substantial payment for some rare magic cards (off Ebay), but there was a discepancy in the paypal address and the one the guy wanted shipping to, so she sent him an email querying it.

She never heard back, until about 8 months later.

Turned out the guys laptop had been stolen, and whoever took it hijacked his accounts.

She did send him the cards then tho :)

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:25 pm 
 

Ok!

Vote me "Loser bidder of the year"

So I finally I pay this jerk via Paypal... but it's a "new" account that he forwards to me via ebay (so I know it's the same guy). this was on the 12th

Still no items... Now he's crying that Paypal won't give him his money, etc. I'm telling him that it's not my problem I paid he needs to ship, etc.

I opened disputed with Paypal and eBay... We'll see.

Won a VG+ copy of B4 from another seller... paid $10 for UPS shipping (figured what the hell I only paid $2 for the book) Still no sign of that with no response from the seller.

And the Aussie Dungeon! I won on Jan 29th has yet to show either.

So frustrating.

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:35 pm 
 

Hey, had an almost sort of similar thing -- bought some James Bond stuff, and waited a month for it to arrive, only asking after 15 days if it had even been shipped -- apparently, via media mail. Well, I waited again, and still nothing, so I finally just had to say "if its not here at the end of the month, give me my money back -- media mail does not take 6 weeks to get two states over, and if it does, then I'll give you some money back because I'll believe it arrived." Well, that was 3 weeks ago, and I got my money back, but no item... maybe the seller shipped it to someone else. Oh well.


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:46 am 
 

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Vote me "Loser bidder of the year"

So I finally I pay this jerk via Paypal... but it's a "new" account that he forwards to me via ebay (so I know it's the same guy). this was on the 12th

Still no items... Now he's crying that Paypal won't give him his money, etc. I'm telling him that it's not my problem I paid he needs to ship, etc.

I opened disputed with Paypal and eBay... We'll see.


They are probably holding his cash until you leave positive feedback or he can prove delivery. It is a total bullshit rule and I do feel for the guy. They hold onto the shipping charges as well, so he has to go out of pocket and then wait until he can prove delivery or you leave positive feedback. Not a big deal if shipping is small, but if he has several items with large shipping charges, it might be a problem for the guy.

Won a VG+ copy of B4 from another seller... paid $10 for UPS shipping (figured what the hell I only paid $2 for the book) Still no sign of that with no response from the seller.

And the Aussie Dungeon! I won on Jan 29th has yet to show either
So frustrating.



The Milford -

I think you need to re-evaluate your expected shipping times from ebay purchases. There are a large number of sellers who simply cannot get to the post office the day after an auction closes. Items coming from Australia can take a very long time - especially packages, regardless of shipping method.

General Rant -

I think a week or ten days is not too long to wait. In fact, I think getting something in that time period is generally fast shipping. I generally allow two weeks before I even send an email to check up in a freindly way.

Sure, lots of things show up in less time, and that is great. But it should not be expected as the norm. The important thing to remember is that most ebay sales - for rpg stuff - are not from full-time ebayers. They are regular people leading regular lives. That means work, kids, events, etc...Expecting people to drop everything and run to the post office to mail out a package from an ebay sale is simply going to give you headaches - which it appears you have right now.

Also, factor in the method of shipment. Media mail takes at least a week in most cases and can take up to two weeks. That is reality. Even first class or parcel post can take up to a week.

If it is coming from overseas, you need to give very wide berth. Those packages can take several weeks to arrive even if the seller got them in the mail immediately.

Now to be fair, sellers need to inform the buyer that it might take them some time to get to the post office. ALL of my auctions indicate that I can take up to five days to mail their item AFTER it clears my paypal account. And how long in general that form of mailing takes (i.e. media mail 6-10 days). It is in my item description and on the paypal invoice. Sellers should also drop a line indicating the item has been mailed - not necessary, but courteous. I do that and give the buyer a tracking number.

Yet, a seller can do all those things and people are still not happy. They expect the item to show up on their doorstep the day after they buy it. In this immediate satisfaction society, patience has taken a holiday. :roll:


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