bbarsh wrote:This is a question spawned from the silliest price thread that got me thinking.Anyone have the AC 3 Revenge of Rusak that has the AC 5 sticker on it? My real question is where is the sticker located - on the shrink or on the actual module. I have the nonsticker version.
Badmike wrote:All the ones I've come across it's on the actual shrink....but I wouldn't discount it being on the module, I think I've seen a copy on ebay before with the sticker on the actual module. Mike B.
bbarsh wrote:Thanks Mike. I think I am going to have to put this on my research list. Could be they did both, but that seems rather odd to me. I would think they were installed on shrink as an after thought.
Mars wrote:The sticker being on the shrink makes more sense to me. Chances are the items were shrinked after they were printed then shipped to TSR where the error was caught. Instead of ripping off the shrink from each one, placing a sticker then reshrinking, it was just put on top of the shrink.
Zenfinite wrote:Wow. I think this may be the first time I actually get to answer a question somebody has on the boards. I have a Revenge of Rusak. The sticker is on the cover of the module. I know it was not placed there by somebody else because I got this module in the original shrink from that collection I bought last year, and I cracked the shrink personally. My biggest complaint about this durn module is when I list my collection, what number do I list it under? AC8? lol. I was never 100% sure of the answer to that one. But, at least you guys have your answer. Glad I can help at least once. Zen
bbarsh wrote:Still need to add a second Ravenloft I6 printing and possibly another B3 printing...
Katchoo wrote:I'd just love to learn the story behind how the heck it was originally printed as AC3... and then someone realized it had to be fixed and they made up the AC5 stickers... somehow forgetting that the product really should be AC8! There must be one awesome story behind this one! lol I wonder if someone lost their job because of this.Anyway, the copy I have is without the sticker, so it shows as AC3. If my memory serves me, I think I remember seeing issues with the AC5 sticker on the shrink, but it has been a long time, so I don't want to commit to that memory 100%. lol ~Kat ^_^
bbarsh wrote:Oh, I think I know exactly what happened. I have some experience in the desktop publishing in my other life. I did signicant work with pagemaker and illustrator. Anyway, I bet that due to the similarity in modules, the page designer/graphic illustrator simply pulled the AC 3 document/file, made a copy and went about their business. The gatefolds are very similar down to the location of the yellow starburst. This is all done on a computer - and I would bet a Mac (they were the choice back then for any and all graphic production).It is much quicker to grab and existing document make and copy and then go about making revisions. All the color separations would be in place -- I don't want to get too technical, but it is a huge time-saver.It could be, most probably, that AC 8 did not have that designation yet and instead of just typing in "AC X" or "XX X" the graphic designer just left it alone, and made a mental note to go back and change it when the designation was assigned. Well, things happen and all of the sudden you get AC 3 instead of AC 8. They could have switched designers in mid-stream, someone got sick, whatever. This is the most common mistake when files are duplicated and rewritten.The fact that the product was supposed to be AC 8 and the stickers say AC 5 back up my theory. The ID was up in the air and a final decision was mucked up and confusion followed.
SimperingToad wrote:While I think this sounds reasonable (I have been working in the desktop publishing arena myself), this was made in 1985. I have a difficult time believing a Macintosh was involved. They were still newborns. If done on a computer at all, I'd imagine something along the lines of IBM with Ventura Publisher. Frank or Tim Kask would likely know what TSR had at the time.
bbarsh wrote:Great!!!!The other thing that bothers me about the sticker is the shape. It is round and relatively large. That would indicate the sticker could actually "bleed" over an edge and wrap around the side or top of the module. No way they are gonna do this with a module out of the shrink. But a module in the shrink is no big deal.