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Post Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:53 pm 
 

I finally received my first-ever "M-bag" this week.  It was strewn about awkwardly on my front porch, resembling a plasticized burlap sack -- or perhaps a small white pudding.  I don't get it.

While I paid for the cheapest possible shipping from Noble Knight Games  (whom I heartily recommend for all your gaming needs!), the sack itself seems a bit...redundant.  They had already done their job and carefully packaged and cushioned my purchase in a sturdy cardboard box.  

What's the point in then stuffing it in a bag, thus making the size of the shipment larger, and considerably more unwieldy?  Couldn't they (the post office, I mean) just send it "non-priority"?  I am keeping the bag as a curiosity, in any case.  Very odd.

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:56 pm 
 

Its so you can feel like self-Santa as you open the bag and start pulling out your little boxes of presents...


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:03 pm 
 

I got one of those a couple of months ago. First one I had ever seen.
I had ordered one very large hardcover book from either Abe Books or Powell's (can't remember).
The book was boxed and padded and could have been shipped without being placed in the bag.
The M-bag could have probably held about 20+ of them.
I'm pretty sure they use them to get a bulk mail rate from the USPS.


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:58 pm 
 

deimos3428 wrote:While I paid for the cheapest possible shipping from Noble Knight Games  (whom I heartily recommend for all your gaming needs!), the sack itself seems a bit...redundant.  They had already done their job and carefully packaged and cushioned my purchase in a sturdy cardboard box.


Yeah, Noble Knight is the only one I've ever had send me M-bags.

I recall my reaction when I received it from the morning parcel-delivery guy was essentially "Huh. So it really is a bag." :D


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:18 pm 
 

When I moved out of Alaska many years ago, I sent all my books and gear (unpackaged) in about a dozen of those bags overseas.  I think the point is you can toss a load of stuff in them, which minimizes the number of pieces the postal service has to move around.  That's prob'ly what the rates are geared for, and the rates are what makes them an attractive shipping option.


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:06 pm 
 

There are also older canvas material M-bags too - although these often seem much dirtier.

The process in how the bags are handled must be different because they do have both Surface and Airmail M-bag.  Airmail M-bag is similar in price to Priority (at least to Canada).

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:08 pm 
 

Mars wrote:There are also older canvas material M-bags too - although these often seem much dirtier.

The process in how the bags are handled must be different because they do have both Surface and Airmail M-bag.  Airmail M-bag is similar in price to Priority (at least to Canada).

Well, this one wasn't particularly clean.  

In fact, at first I thought it might be a bag of used material or decaying leaves or something, as I had just had my eavestroughs repaired/cleaned that day.  I nearly tossed it in the trash, until I saw the giant blue "M" on the tag.  There really is an "M".

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:34 pm 
 

Canvas bags are no longer made - only Nylon (though there are still some canvas ones floating about).

I am pretty sure that Surface M-Bags have gone away since the US Post office changes about a year ago . . . no surface for anything.

The idea of M-Bags is that you don't actually need to package and protect your books in neat little boxes.  You can throw 30 books "loose" in a bag.  Keep in mind that these type of "bags" are what the post office puts your letters in . . . it is sort of their "default" packaging.  If you look, you will see them stuff a sack with dozens and dozens of Priority envelopes until it is full.  Then it is sorted, the sack is tied off and it is ultimately shipped in one of these.  You are in essence giving the post office a finished product - they just have to put your entire sack on a truck and take it to the airport.


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:42 pm 
 

Beyondthebreach wrote:I am pretty sure that Surface M-Bags have gone away since the US Post office changes about a year ago . . . no surface for anything.


Surface M-Bags still exist.

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:11 pm 
 

I don't know . . . I double checked the US Postal service web site . . . no more Surface M-bags.  Only airmail.  (though it may take as long as surface used to, it is still categorized as Airmail).


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:15 pm 
 

I wonder if M-bags have anything to do with M-theory? Perhaps they represent our first tentative steps towards creating a tardis.

  

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:37 pm 
 

Beyondthebreach wrote:Canvas bags are no longer made - only Nylon (though there are still some canvas ones floating about).


I've kept like a dozen of them, I'm waiting for them to become collectable;)

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:49 pm 
 

"eavestroughs"

Interesting, and funny (to me). We call them "gutters" (like in bowling) in the US.

Never had an M-bag sent to me yet, and don't plan on dealing with the Coug-meister anytime soon.

  

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Post Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:11 am 
 

Beyondthebreach wrote:I don't know . . . I double checked the US Postal service web site . . . no more Surface M-bags.  Only airmail.  (though it may take as long as surface used to, it is still categorized as Airmail).


You must have missed it.  Here is the Airmail M-Bag table:

http://www.usps.com/cpim/ftp/bulletin/2 ... s_009.html

and here is the Surface M-bag table:

http://www.usps.com/cpim/ftp/bulletin/2 ... s_012.html

I guess there might be some confusion between what "Surface Air Lift" means.

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Post Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:11 pm 
 

ISAL or International Surface Air Lift is a different service.  It is still shipped by Airmail.  It is called "Surface Air Lift" as it is taken directly from the US to another country.  It is primarily a volume service with a variety of options.

Here is the Postal Service page on it:

http://www.usps.com/international/intlsurfaceairlift.htm


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