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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:45 am

I was checking out The Acaeums price that is listed for L3 Deep Dwarven Delve when I noticed that Lakofka will be finishing and releasing the modules L4 - L5. Very cool. So of course I did some web browsing and found this quote by LL himself...

L1, L2, L3 are all published but now we are working on L4 and L5. These two will be FREE and will be published by the folks who bring you FOOTPRINTS a few times each year. "L4" will contentrate on the central island north of Restenford. It will introduce three small hamlets; Grest, Tellar and Cobblethorp and will have connections to L1 and L2 and a minor connection to L3. Publication will be late summer 2006. "L5" will deal with Kroten and northern peninsula including Phaulkonville.
Information @ Dragonsfoot.com. Lenard Lakofka

Well I did a search over at Dragonsfoot and could not find anything about these modules. Did they ever make it to production?

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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:41 am

xraygord wrote:I was checking out The Acaeums price that is listed for L3 Deep Dwarven Delve when I noticed that Lakofka will be finishing and releasing the modules L4 - L5. Very cool. So of course I did some web browsing and found this quote by LL himself...

L1, L2, L3 are all published but now we are working on L4 and L5. These two will be FREE and will be published by the folks who bring you FOOTPRINTS a few times each year. "L4" will contentrate on the central island north of Restenford. It will introduce three small hamlets; Grest, Tellar and Cobblethorp and will have connections to L1 and L2 and a minor connection to L3. Publication will be late summer 2006. "L5" will deal with Kroten and northern peninsula including Phaulkonville.
Information @ Dragonsfoot.com. Lenard Lakofka

Well I did a search over at Dragonsfoot and could not find anything about these modules. Did they ever make it to production?

If you're planning a campaign around them, don't wait up. They've been working on them since about 2004, and were first announced to be released in late 2006. At this rate Rob will have all the Bottle City Part VII: The Lowest Levels modules shipped before we catch a glance at any of the unreleased L-series. :roll:

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very once in awhile someone over there asks about them and is hammered by those working on the project saying they are still "editing" the modules. I think the Dead Sea Scrolls were edited faster. They are starting to aquire the reputation that EGG's original Castle Greyhawk did; supposedly exists, rumored to be released, but I keep having birthdays and I don't see it....!

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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:45 am

They haven't been published yet and it seems like they have been in the works for several years now.

From what I remember, the manuscripts were lost (due to a mailing mishap) but some bad scans remained. A few people over on Dragonsfoot were than recruited/volunteered to play with the scans changing contrast/colour and type out the pages.

I think a status check was done last summer and things were still in the works but no timeline on release has ever been given.

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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:50 am

When and if they are released, does anyone know if they will publish an actual paper copy or are we talking PDF files?

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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:56 am

Probably PDF. I don't think Dragonsfoot has released any paper materials but you never know, they might do the lulu thing which is basically a print on demand service.

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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:16 pm

Mars wrote:From what I remember, the manuscripts were lost (due to a mailing mishap) but some bad scans remained.

And doesn't the tale of L3 include it being "lost behind a cabinet" or something like that? Throw in the fact that L1 and L2 are hardly earth-shaking to begin with, and I'm beginning to believe that the entire series is under some sort of curse. Like a Vecna-level curse.

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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:41 pm

Here's the latest on L4

Pied Piper Publishing - Rob Kuntz's Pathways to Enchantment

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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:58 pm

First post over here. Hello!

Being the person who did the mapping for L4 as well as L5, I can tell you that the main problem with both adventures lies within the incredibly slow proofreading and editing process of the modules. I can assure you that both adventures do really exist and are completely written and done by Len. Although I don't exactly know what's the reason for the long delay, I suspect that their sheer length (as well as Len's "unique" style of writing :wink:

) might be the reason for it.

Please be patient, people. This is going to be freeware after all and no one of those involved will see even a single cent for it. And it was a lot of work.

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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:59 pm

Sir Clarence wrote:First post over here. Hello!

Being the person who did the mapping for L4 as well as L5, I can tell you that the main problem with both adventures lies within the incredibly slow proofreading and editing process of the modules. I can assure you that both adventures do really exist and are completely written and done by Len. Although I don't exactly know what's the reason for the long delay, I suspect that their sheer length (as well as Len's "unique" style of writing ) might be the reason for it.

Please be patient, people. This is going to be freeware after all and no one of those involved will see even a single cent for it. And it was a lot of work.

I don't doubt they exist...

I don't doubt that no one made a thing off of working with it...

I just think by the time they show up, they better blow me away. Anything that takes 30 years to write, edit and proofread should be kick ass enough to knock my socks off...free or not. I'm expecting GDQ1-7...to the 10th power.

Obviously I'm being facetious. I just find it amusing that it takes 4 years to edit/proofread an already written item, volunteer or not, even 400 pages (I doubt it's that large but you never know). I could have busted it out myself, six months tops, of that I have no doubt.

Nothing against Len, I love L1 and his old Leomund's Tiny Hut columns. But you have to admit by this time the entire project has taken an amusing twist...since it was first announced "finished" way back in 2006!

Between Rob, Len, and EGG (who was known to stretch out a deadline or two, aka T1-4), I guess we know why TSR's old production/release schedule was rather slooooooooooow.... :lol:

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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:52 pm

Sir Clarence wrote:First post over here. Hello!

Being the person who did the mapping for L4 as well as L5, I can tell you that the main problem with both adventures lies within the incredibly slow proofreading and editing process of the modules. I can assure you that both adventures do really exist and are completely written and done by Len. Although I don't exactly know what's the reason for the long delay, I suspect that their sheer length (as well as Len's "unique" style of writing ) might be the reason for it.

Please be patient, people. This is going to be freeware after all and no one of those involved will see even a single cent for it. And it was a lot of work.

Actually, *I'd* be perfectly happy to pay for them!

That said, Len may certainly take his time... I can't say anything - none of my writing projects are anywhere near done...

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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:04 pm

Charles G. wrote:
Actually, *I'd* be perfectly happy to pay for them!

That said, Len may certainly take his time... I can't say anything - none of my writing projects are anywhere near done...

Well, you can't say the price isn't right! Free is free after all.

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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:12 am

Badmike wrote:Nothing against Len, I love L1 and his old Leomund's Tiny Hut columns. But you have to admit by this time the entire project has taken an amusing twist...since it was first announced "finished" way back in 2006!

Absolutely! And I can tell you that Len is not the least who is annoyed about the delay and already made comments about all his work becoming vaporware. L4 was actually finished at the beginning of 2007 and could have already been released since then. Writing and mapping of L5 however have been finished only recently (last october IIRC) and with the pace of proofreading and editing that we've seen with L4, it might easily take another year or two until it sees the light of day...

Admittedly I don't hope so...

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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:19 am

It seemed a little strange to me to start working on L5 before L4 was
completed? I think it made us wonder if any of the modules would ever
be released? If L4 had been completed and released first, the entire team
would be far more motivated towards L5.

Just my opinion. :wink:

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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:39 pm

I'm eager to see them, as well... but I will wait until the powers that be say that they are complete. We don't have much of a choice in the matter anyway, do we?

heh

By the way, I also would pay for them.... but I won't complain about them being free.

~Kat ^_^

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