bonk! wrote:Sorri Atari, I know not about this module oddity, and that Wiki article on the subject seems a bit shady to me I think...bonk!
Mars wrote:That Wiki entry looks like it is completely bogus and someone is out to try and make some money - this is one of the reasons I can't stand Wiki. Does anyone seriously believe that WotC would actually pick up this module? After 20 years they are going to spend time trying to track down the author to negotiate a contract or have him finish it? For what? V8 golem and the tomato men? Maybe they have a whole new spellbook too: spaghetti explosion, magic meatball, etc I think the dead giveaway on this Wiki hoax is the valuation. $1000? seriously? Even if this came with the contract signed by Gary, it would probably be $200 tops. Without anything to back it up, the module is a homebrew that might have just been submitted to Dungeon magazine and not even published there.
Badmike wrote:It's a load of crap.I'll trade you a half roll of toilet tissue for one....Anyone here could write up some kind of bogus garbage and try to pawn it off as a "rare" item no one has ever heard of. Having said this, no doubt The Fantasy Museum will give you $1000 for one...Mike B.
atari wrote:I do believe there are only ten original copies that do exist as lordan's copy and the two copies I have indicate a printing of 10.
Mars wrote:The Wiki entry really does bother me though. Aside from the ridiculous valuation, it seems the author of the Wiki entry has also kept track of where the TSR copies have been dispersed to - US, CAN, GER.
atari wrote:For Degassy31Did it come with anything extra like lordan's copy that has a letter to Gary Gygax?Just FYI for everyone, every item I sell for the month of February will come free with a letter I'm writing to Gary Gygax...the month after, it will be with letter written to Barbara Eden.... For BadmikeIt could have been a rejected module submission, a contest entry or a homebrew never submitted. It could also be something TSR was considering for publication.Not a chance, if it featured something called a "V8 Monster". The only offical TSR publications approaching this level of lunacy would be WG7 Castle Greyhawk; the Dragon magazine adventure "The Twofold Talisman"; Rick Reid's "Fluffy" series; or EGG's own EX series based on the Lewis Carroll tales. At ten pages, it definitely wasn't a stand alone module. For MarsHopefully lordan does still have it's copy. Whatever it is, it seems there was only 10 copies made so even if at worst it is a homebrew, it is a homebrew from the 1980's and has some historical significance. At best, if what wikipedia says is true, this could be considered the lost module.I have plenty of hombrews from the 80s. I can make up a story about my homebrews being "accepted for publication by TSR". I can write a letter to EGG. That doesn't make my homebrews worth $1000. The Wiki entry is a fraud, and I suspect someone is pulling what conmen like to call "The Long Con", or a set up before suddenly and miraculously some of these "lost modules" will appear on the market sometime this year...suspiciously just as interest is drummed up by postings to the premier collector site, The Acaeum....Any module released or not could be photocopied a billion times, but if the module is in the form and signed as indicated by lordan and wikipedia, there would only be a limited number of these. It's hard to say what wikipedia says is true or a lot of guessing. I do believe there are only ten original copies that do exist as lordan's copy and the two copies I have indicate a printing of 10.So what? Ten limited numbered copies of a piece of shit ends up being ten limited numbered copies of a piece of shit.The wikipedia poster seems to know something and could have been in contact with TSR staff. Hard to say though. He/she seems to making a lot of guesses to what one of these modules is worth, because there is no way of really knowing.
atari wrote:For Degassy31Did it come with anything extra like lordan's copy that has a letter to Gary Gygax?
For BadmikeIt could have been a rejected module submission, a contest entry or a homebrew never submitted. It could also be something TSR was considering for publication.
For MarsHopefully lordan does still have it's copy. Whatever it is, it seems there was only 10 copies made so even if at worst it is a homebrew, it is a homebrew from the 1980's and has some historical significance. At best, if what wikipedia says is true, this could be considered the lost module.
Any module released or not could be photocopied a billion times, but if the module is in the form and signed as indicated by lordan and wikipedia, there would only be a limited number of these. It's hard to say what wikipedia says is true or a lot of guessing. I do believe there are only ten original copies that do exist as lordan's copy and the two copies I have indicate a printing of 10.
The wikipedia poster seems to know something and could have been in contact with TSR staff. Hard to say though. He/she seems to making a lot of guesses to what one of these modules is worth, because there is no way of really knowing.
"The Realm of No!" is an unreleased adventure module for the Dungeons & Dragons roleplaying game. The Realm of No! was originally hand printed and later submitted to TSR in an amount of 10 copies. These 10 copies are printed on heavy stock paper and are signed, numbered and dated by the author Kim Ryan. This module was originally written in 1984 but printed and submitted to T.S.R. in 1985. It is thought that the first 6 of the 10 copies were submitted with a hand written letter to Gary Gygax, but this cannot be confirmed.The Realm of No! takes place in the World of Greyhawk. This module was accepted but never published by T.S.R. due to the controversial nature of this module [edit] SynopsisThe Realm of No! takes place in the Kingdom of King Bill who has gained power by his discovery of The NO! Staff. King Bill has enslaved the new races he has created with his staff and savagely holds onto his power by any means possible.The Realm of No! was the first module to incorporate radically unique creates to the Dungeons and Dragons landscape and which also parodies famous and semi-famous people from the mid 1980's.[edit] Warm but Unreleased ReceptionUnfortunately and without official reason, The Realm of No! was embraced by the staff at T.S.R. at the time but was never released. The was possible due to the controversial and odd nature of the module.[edit] AftermathThrough staff changes and company changes within T.S.R. in the later 1980's and early to mid 1990's, the 10 Realm of No! modules found their way into private collections of some T.S.R. staff and into collectors collections in the United States, Germany, and Canada. According to insiders, the locations of the first 6 modules are known but the location of the other 4 are still a mystery.In 2004, a member of The Acaeum, known as lordan posted information on his 4 of 10 The Realm of No! and inquiring about its value and origin. It is unknown whether he sold his copy or foolishly threw it in the garbage.It is unknown whether Wizards of the Coast will pick up where T.S.R. left off and publish The Realm of No! but according to sources, Wizards of the Coast have acquired one of the modules(either 1 of the possible 10 printings or the original hand written manuscript).[edit] ValueIt is unknown how much specifically any one of the ten printings of this module are worth, but it is estimated that earlier printings(1 to 6) are valued between $1000 to $500 U.S. Dollars and the later printings(7 to 10) are valued at between $500 to $300 U.S. Dollars.
