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Post Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:34 pm 
 

Well everyone i thought I would just share the ebay ID of the wonderful person I was fortunate enough to have just had the pleasure to deal with.

:roll:

I think I worded that properly and in a polite way.

The ID is
bagatto0001

I would suggest that other US buyers beware. The feedback that he had left by others had me wondering when he managed to win a coupel auctions over the weekend. Then I got to experience his ways first hand.

He wins, then he asks if I would consider giving him other items that I had that failed to sell. When I said no I would not give them, yet if he chose to discuss it ouside Ebay we could discuss a possible outside sale that would be shipped with his current items.

He then contacted me and wanted to know what I had in mind. I told him I would sell him the items if you wanted them. I would charge him X for each item. He responded with, "Why would I pay X when I could have purchased them for less if I had bid?" I then explained that he did not bid and I was offering him a chance to purchase them.

He then complained that my shipping was too high, that he knew it did nto cast that much to ship to him, he wanted me to change my form of shipping overseas. When I explained that the shipping included the cost of materials involved. He then told me to not protect his items.
(Now I am not even this foolish as the result would be damage and comlaint and insurance claims and such.)

I sent him an invoice with the amount he owed for his items he won and the shipping. He then complained again about my charges.

In the end I just rudely explained that the great thing about America is we have the right to tell people to kiss off and refuse to do business with them. I then explained he did not owe me anything. I would not ship to him anyhow. If he paid I would refund his money. That if he chose to enter a feedback war it was not a problem with me.

He left negative. (my first ever) So I responed and so be it blocked him.
Yes I know I ranted, I apologize but I needed to vent.

For those overseas, these are the people that cause US sellers to refuse to sell too or to ship overseas. I however dont mind, occasionaly you get morons in your deals and with the amount I have dealt with I consider this to be fairly good odds. I am surprised I did not find one sooner is all.


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:45 pm 
 

The feedback problem is easily solved, file a NPB report. You should anyways, since he won the auctions and tried to change the terms.


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:48 pm 
 

Looking at his feedback he does look like trouble.  6 people have given him negatives and 14 positives.  Notably, he was neg'd by crazyegor and the coug.

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:55 pm 
 

Blocked.  Thanks for the heads-up.


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:49 pm 
 

Ogreden wrote:For those overseas, these are the people that cause US sellers to refuse to sell too or to ship overseas.

QFT.

I was always shocked by the level of special treatment that many international buyers seemed to think was their birthright. It got very old, very quickly.

Maybe I just had some luck with my international sales ... but I don't miss the headaches at all. YMMV, of course.

Thanks for the heads-up on this clown, too.

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Post Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:53 am 
 

wow thats one seriously bad buyer to avoid!!!! WOW!

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Post Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:52 pm 
 

Who is crazyegor?

  

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Post Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:58 pm 
 

Wags wrote:Who is crazyegor?




eBay listings



He is a reputable seller.


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:04 pm 
 

This jacka$$ just zinged me too.   He is attempting to reclaim all of his $ through Paypal.   I claims that the books that I sent were heavily damaged.   I will be the first to admit, I am not a stickler for details, but I do not sell heavily damaged books.

I also negotiated a lower shipping price at his request because of the volume that he purchased.    He complained that the shipping was too high.    So I cut it way back just to get the transaction closed.

What a weenie . . .


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:15 pm 
 

Stangely enough I already had this guy blocked and I never dealt with him before.  He must be one of those people through my Ebay travels that seemed like they were going to be more trouble than their worth (i.e by looking at their feedback left), so on occasion where I see a bidder like this I block them. This makes me really glad that my assumptions about this guy were correct.  Just take a look at the feedback this guy has left:

http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=b ... y&ref=home

In 8 months on Ebay he has left a total of 40 FBs of which 26 are negs.  :roll:  What a joke.  I also concur with the sentiment above about this type of buyer being a valid justification for US sellers being reluctant to ship overseas.


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:20 pm 
 

I have until this point always assumed that the customer was always correct.   However, thanks to these posts and that I am pretty certain I graded those items pretty closely, I am digging in my heels on this guy.

Should be interesting to see how Paypal handles this.


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:24 pm 
 

Guido-the-Gypsy wrote:I have until this point always assumed that the customer was always correct.   However, thanks to these posts and that I am pretty certain I graded those items pretty closely, I am digging in my heels on this guy.

Should be interesting to see how Paypal handles this.


I'd direct Paypal directly to his FB history as a strong indication of his "normal" behavior. Although this certainly doesn't reflect 100% proof that he is lying, it sure does show a pattern of behavior.


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:05 pm 
 

Thanks.  Blocked.


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:11 pm 
 

While I have not sold anything, yet, I am going to start this new year (selling boards games), so thanks for the tips and stuff.


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:40 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote:
I'd direct Paypal directly to his FB history as a strong indication of his "normal" behavior. Although this certainly doesn't reflect 100% proof that he is lying, it sure does show a pattern of behavior.


Good point.   Consider it done.   Hopefully, they will follow through.


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:50 pm 
 

Thought I would add this for Guido and the others who have recently dealt with the mentioned individule.

I put in a non paying bidder claim on the individule. He is no longer a registered member on Ebay. This means all of you who do so will automaticaly get reimbersed your fees.

Ebay also on their own removed his negative feedback he had left on me.
So if you have not taken the steps to file a NPB claim on the individule do so. I know it isnt much money back but every little bit helps.

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:01 pm 
 

It's a bit sad and embarassing for me noticing that this (ex) bidder is Italian  :cry:  but alas no people is perfect...

  

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:02 pm 
 

What?! Americans are! Just ask us!


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