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Tszii
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 12:11 am

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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 12:36 am

What recession?

-SKA

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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:24 am

What price immortality? Now we know.

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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:14 am

Fools and their money.....

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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:07 pm

Someone with more money than brains trying to recapture lost youth...

Dave, get the barbarian in the corner a drink, quick!

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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 12:35 am

jkason wrote in What...:Someone with more money than brains trying to recapture lost youth...

...like any collector...

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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 5:40 am

Those prices are truly bizarre.

Did anyone every play Immortal Rules? I actually played and used the Companion Set, but never got to Masters and Immortal Rules.

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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 10:46 am

HermitFromPluto wrote in What...:Those prices are truly bizarre.

Did anyone every play Immortal Rules? I actually played and used the Companion Set, but never got to Masters and Immortal Rules.

I bought them and never played them, but now selling them is starting to appear attractive!

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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 12:03 pm

HermitFromPluto wrote in What...:Those prices are truly bizarre.

Did anyone every play Immortal Rules? I actually played and used the Companion Set, but never got to Masters and Immortal Rules.

I still have my original box set which is still sealed. My intention was to play it, but my group (at the time) never made it that far and I just kept it on my shelf until I was finally ready to unwrap it, lol. 35ish years later, lol ...nice display piece next to my more recently purchased "player's copy"

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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 2:45 pm

Mentzer checklist:

Cheap

AC4 Book of Marvelous Magic
IM1 Immortal Storm
SF 2001 A Space Odyssey
NIPI The Convert, Aesheba, Operation Bifrost, Cyborg Commando
EldEnt Lich Dungeon L1&L2, Quondam Fount, Case of the Missing Magic
Loxley Fairy Tale Games
PF Emerald Spire (1 level)

Midrange

I11 Needle
I12 Egg of the Phoenix (Jaquays modification)
D&D boxed sets (Basic Expert Companion)
T4 Temple of Elemental Evil

Rare

D&D boxed sets (Master & Immortals)
R1 To the Aid of Falx
R2 Investigation of Hydell
R3 Egg of the Phoenix
R4 Doc's Island

Extremely Rare

RPGA Tournaments:
R5 Great Bugbear Hunt (also in Polyhedron)
R6 Bigby's Tomb (also in Poly)
R7-10 Dwarven Quest for the Rod of 7 Parts
R11 Gypsy
R12 Spring Fever

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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 4:45 pm

HermitFromPluto wrote in What...:Those prices are truly bizarre.

Did anyone every play Immortal Rules? I actually played and used the Companion Set, but never got to Masters and Immortal Rules.

I've used material from all of the sets. It's pretty good, but meant for higher level parties of course.

The reason these sell for so much is that they are quite rare, especially in decent condition. The sets are flimsy and very susceptible to damage. Many copies that were sold were already dented and dinged at the stores.

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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 5:40 pm

dbartman wrote in What...:I've used material from all of the sets. It's pretty good, but meant for higher level parties of course.

I remember people looking askance at the Immortals set, because it seemed like a clumsy attempt to combine fantasy with superheroes. We didn't know about the history of Arneson's Blackmoor, or how it related to S3 Expedition to the Barrier Peaks.

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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:12 pm

Two people, one of whom has 5 Feedback, drove the $526 Immortals box above the $170 mark. It is entirely possible that bidder won't pay.

Shrink is not a condition

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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:05 pm

aia wrote in What...:
...like any collector...

Yeah... I was hoping nobody noticed the irony.

Dave, get the barbarian in the corner a drink, quick!

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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 10:59 pm

idk

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One left listed for just under the price of an Immortals set.

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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 5:26 am

I think you are referring to this one...

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It is in gorgeous shape, but not at that price point. Crazy Train indeed. I have noticed quite a pull back in shrink prices. I think however it is due to many of them having quality issues. Thoughts?

-SKA

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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 7:13 pm

I think more people prefer copies they can read first, especially new collectors. Also, and I say this just as mho, I think people are going to want graded copies second; which means it has to be open. Shrink is neat, but it doesn't really mean all that much. Maybe if the items appears to be mint with a neat price tag, but if its not truly mint, its just "different." Shrink is value add but not value. Reading, Quality, then differentiation would be my guess for price.

tldr: New collectors want to read items. A very small few are starting to buy to grade, and this will grow. Shrink is just shrink collecting.

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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 8:08 pm

Tszii wrote in What...:I think more people prefer copies they can read first, especially new collectors. Also, and I say this just as mho, I think people are going to want graded copies second; which means it has to be open. Shrink is neat, but it doesn't really mean all that much. Maybe if the items appears to be mint with a neat price tag, but if its not truly mint, its just "different." Shrink is value add but not value. Reading, Quality, then differentiation would be my guess for price.

tldr: New collectors want to read items. A very small few are starting to buy to grade, and this will grow. Shrink is just shrink collecting.

Agreed. Personally, I collect to remember and appreciate. Of course there's different strokes for different folks, but paying 3-5x more for a book that I can never flip through feels wrong to me.

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