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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:47 am

The new TSR Games clarify position as key names appeared to distance themselves

Apologies for the links poor quality of writing, but this surfaced this morning. However James Ward has already said, no idea what this is, effectively.

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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:40 am

ashmire13 wrote in TSR relaunched?:The new TSR Games clarify position as key names appeared to distance themselves

Apologies for the links poor quality of writing, but this surfaced this morning. However James Ward has already said, no idea what this is, effectively.

Towards the end of the article, James Ward clarifies that he is publishing his game under the new TSR label. In any case, the OSR space is nothing new, and maybe the TSR brand will bring more people to the table, but unless they have something unique and interesting, I don't see this venture as anything too significant. The legal issues only make it less likely to be successful.

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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:21 pm

OOF.

https://twitter.com/EricMPaq/status/1408032283030867968

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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:56 pm

Looks like a shit storm waiting to happen

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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:57 pm

Seems like a dogshit cash grab. Like Christopher Tolkein before him, the hack-of-a-creator son is trying to rebottle lightning.

and will fail.

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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:12 pm

For whatever Christopher Tolkien's faults were, a desire to rebottle lighting and engage in a cash grab would not seem to be two of them. To use more recently developed jargon he might have been a "gatekeeper" but it seems to me he was not motivated by sales figures.

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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:58 pm

I haven't watched much of this - but what I have seen is pretty weird.

TSR - Ernie Gygax on New TSR, WotC Beefs, Trademarks, Licensees, 5E, & More | EN World | Dungeons & Dragons | Tabletop Roleplaying Games

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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:06 pm

This one is a sh*t show of epic proportion. I have my popcorn, beverage, and comfy chair to watch the spectacle!!!

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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:37 am

muaddib5 wrote in TSR relaunched?:This one is a sh*t show of epic proportion. I have my popcorn, beverage, and comfy chair to watch the spectacle!!!

Hasn't Ernie got a track record of failed cash grabs on the back of his surname?
One wonders what Luke has to say on the matter.

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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:54 am

mbassoc2003 wrote in TSR relaunched?:One wonders what Luke has to say on the matter.

Luke is taking great pains to distance himself, as he should do.

https://twitter.com/lukegygax/status/14 ... 5882520578

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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:06 am

Reading some of the social media posts about all this though, seems to be descending into a gender neutral battle and even just seen a comment that being a Dungeon Master isn’t acceptable anymore due to its controlling connotation and the lack of dungeons now in the game. Sorry, it’s not a game either…

Excuse my wording but get to f*ck!

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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:56 pm

ashmire13 wrote in TSR relaunched?:Reading some of the social media posts about all this...

I recognize a dumpster fire when I see it and choose not to indulge in it. I believe its only purpose is to manufacture controversy. On that note, with the hypocrisy of me adding to said dialogue, ill crawl back under my rock.

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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:39 pm

for_the_love_of_the_stuff wrote in TSR relaunched?:
Luke is taking great pains to distance himself, as he should do.

https://twitter.com/lukegygax/status/14 ... 5882520578

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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:05 pm

To be fair, anything posted on Twitter instantly turns into a pile of dog poo. So called "Social media" in general brings out the worst in the worst people, but Twitter is like a concentrated nexus for online stupidity and awfulness. The inmates took over that asylum long ago.

I'm supportive of the spirit of the endeavor, it's a nice idea on paper. But I agree with the others who say that even trying to take back that particular lightning rod of a company name, with all its storied history and baggage, is just going to be a soul draining legal, cultural and financial black hole.

Why take up that heavy mantle? Avoid a lot of trouble and find another name for your new company so I can keep my fond memories of the old TSR that brought me so much joy in my wasted youth.

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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 2:42 am

Sir Kill Alot wrote in TSR relaunched?:
I recognize a dumpster fire when I see it and choose not to indulge in it. I believe its only purpose is to manufacture controversy. On that note, with the hypocrisy of me adding to said dialogue, ill crawl back under my rock.

-SKA

Thankfully I closed all my social media at least 6 years ago. Whilst it had its place reconnecting with old friends or family members across the world, the negatives far outweighed any positives.

The toe dip back in reading the insane drivel relating to the TSR relaunch just made me distance myself even further from what I now see as anti-social media.

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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 4:44 am

Agent Cooper wrote in TSR relaunched?:To be fair, anything posted on Twitter instantly turns into a pile of dog poo.

Isn't that why they call people who use Twitter, 'twits'?

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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:47 am

Agent Cooper wrote in TSR relaunched?:To be fair, anything posted on Twitter instantly turns into a pile of dog poo. So called "Social media" in general brings out the worst in the worst people, but Twitter is like a concentrated nexus for online stupidity and awfulness. The inmates took over that asylum long ago.

There's a pile of dog poo on Facebook right now regarding all of this.... :eye:

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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 12:01 pm

They have two choices....
1. Get woke.
2. Find someone with a spinal column to tell the wokers to FO.

Sorry, there is a third option. They could do nothing and just piss thousands of USD up the wall until they run out of money and then manufacture bleeding heart stories about how badly they were treated by vindictive critics with a woke agenda, and how ill equipped they are to manage a company in the real world.

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