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Post Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:01 pm 
 

Hi everyone, first time this has happened to me.  I figured I'm probably rooked but thought I'd post in case anyone has any advice on how to handle this.

I sold a Tomb of Horrors and mailed it surface mail overseas. I gave the buyer the choice, he selected the cheap, slow route.

30 days in he's opened a PayPal claim, item not received. Which is likely true, post office says delivery is 4-12 weeks.

I've posted my postal receipts, no tracking info, and asked PayPal to defer a decision until the post office has a chance to deliver the mod.

Anyone else run into this, or have any advice at this point?


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Post Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 11:27 pm 
 

Yes.  Don't sell internationally unless you know and trust the person.

  

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Post Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 3:39 am 
 

I send stuff international all the time, I don't give them the option of surface mail because it is to slow.


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Post Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:17 am 
 

4-12 weeks!  Geeze, the shipping service must put the box in a plastic bag and toss it in the ocean.  Depending on the weather, the current would do all the work ;-).

  

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Post Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:33 am 
 

A lot of eBay Sellers will tell you to never sell an item internationally without using eBay's Global Shipping Program. I don't know about never but it would have protected you in this case. A lot of overseas Sellers require Air Mailed fully insured if the item is over $30-50. Personally I like cheap shipping because I don't mind the wait, but sometimes the seller doesn't see my 20 years on eBay as enough of a good reputation to do it for me. I can understand that because the seller doesn't have much recourse if I do turn out to be a piece of crap buyer.

That's a shame you have an impatient buyer. I have regularly purchased items from Belgium and the UK, and on slow shipping it can take anywhere from 3 - 8 weeks. It been a long time for me to purchase from Mexico, but slow shipping from there can be up to 5 months and I'm pretty certain that the Seller wasn't just holding onto my purchases.

My only advice to you is to keep calling Paypal and get a different rep to see if they will put a hold on the claim until the item has a chance to get there. It's pretty widely known that eBay and Paypal reps can be extremely inconsistent, keep calling them until you get one that doesn't have their head up their tushy.

  

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Post Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:11 am 
 

And after a few days of radio silence, this morning I received a nice note in response to my messages and he withdrew the dispute.

Takeaway # 1, I'll continue to trust folks and enjoy all the good people in this hobby,

Takeaway # 2, Acaeum posting gives good karma :)

Thanks for the advice guys!


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Post Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:13 am 
 

Glad it worked out Thunderdave :!:

I purchased an item once via international surface mail. A Gibsons Games printing of Diplomacy from the 70's that had a board design etc that I really like. It arrived about 2 months later after I forgot I ordered it.


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Post Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:39 am 
 

I prefer to use Fedex insured with a tracking number. Very expensive for the buyer, but much less expensive for me, ...as if the item doesn't reach it's destination, then the buyer is reimbursed by Fedex.

I had a problem about a decade back, where my artwork was confiscated by Her Majesties Customs Service. This was a cartography commission where I designed some highly detailed sci-fi maps which were printed here in the U.S. in poster form. Because Her Majesties Customs Service, and their loser fish cronies at SIS/MI6 couldn't figure out what the maps were for, or what they actually represented (They actually represented nothing except a fictional place, because it was a sci-fi map of a colony station...)  Naturally I received no notification from HMCS that the delivery had been held up. My inquiries with the U.S Postal Service (especially the second time, when I had the posters tracked with a postal tracking number) revealed they had been put on a jet bound for the U.K., and my inquiries with Her Majesties Postal Service showed they had never received said poster tube. The only in-between? A short stop at HM Customs & Excise, where said posters vanished. Not one, but two printed lots, shipped in tubes, disappeared in his manner, and I ended up losing money on that commission, instead of earning money.

I finally delivered the artwork by having the client directly download the print ready art from one of my web servers here in the U.S. (One of my preferred methods of delivery these days), and then reimbursing the client for printing costs in the U.K. However the lesson was well learned, and to circumvent retards that are trying to limit or control free trade, I go with the guaranteed and insured Fedex delivery, or a direct digital download.


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:33 pm 
 

Blackmoor wrote in PayPal dispute:I send stuff international all the time, I don't give them the option of surface mail because it is to slow.


Bingo. International priority mail or sorry, mate.....

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:40 am 
 

GameDaddy wrote in PayPal dispute: ...and their loser fish cronies at SIS/MI6 couldn't figure out what the maps were for, or what they actually represented (They actually represented nothing except a fictional place, because it was a sci-fi map of a colony station...)  


Of course, it may not have been the UK secret service who intervened with your deal. I mean once we are talking government spy agencies, anything is possible. Perhaps it was  the CIA who identified your maps as a threat to national intelligence and simply told the USPS to mark them as shipped. Or worse, perhaps [ he whispers ] … Russian Intelligence! … Does this mean you are now a "person of interest" … and now I am too, as I have responded to your post (!!) Who knew this collecting game was so dangerous; and so exciting!  :D


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