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Post Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:46 pm 
 

looks to be..


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Just the ones I saw..

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Post Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:34 pm 
 

If you use the eBay searching / browsing functionality of Auction Hunter, all items from bad countries are automatically blocked.  ( *nudge, nudge* )

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Post Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:03 am 
 

FoulFoot wrote in China Scam..?:If you use the eBay searching / browsing functionality of Auction Hunter, all items from bad countries are automatically blocked.  ( *nudge, nudge* )

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Hey Foul,  does this mean that if an honest collector living in China puts erroneously his orange B3 with a Bin of 20 bucks,  we are not able to spot that auction here at the acaeum?!?  ...this is terrible!  We would miss the best hits...   :roll:


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Post Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:50 am 
 

"Bad" countries? Boy, I'd like to see that list.


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Post Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:26 am 
 

Well, it's part of my plan to corner the market on orange B3's offered unknowingly for $20.

And I shouldn't say "bad".  I should say "rife with counterfeits and with no place offering the good citizens of eBay a glass of water, much less a collectible".

For a real hoot, compare the Auction Hunter "browse" results of the Antiques category with the version on eBay itself.  Eye-opening.

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Post Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:00 pm 
 

Can I ask what the motive is for the seller, are the just figuring some percentage of their buyers will just forget about the $20 rather than make a claim?


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Post Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:06 pm 
 


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Thunderdave wrote in China Scam..?:Can I ask what the motive is for the seller, are the just figuring some percentage of their buyers will just forget about the $20 rather than make a claim?



I would have to assume so..


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Post Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:54 am 
 

They sure do list a bunch of different stuff:


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Post Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:15 am 
 

They are also snaring quite a few people.  These deals are truly too good to be true.  Seriously?  Free shipping from China?  Why would these items even be in China?  These are the kinds of auctions that feed off some people's impulses and spontaneity, hoping they can get that once in a lifetime steal.

I hope that someone does get a deal, but it's very doubtful - these are too contrived.  If lucky, the buyer might get a copy of the real thing or PDF files.  More than likely these zero feedback sellers who will vanish after a few weeks of pulling the wool over some buyer's eyes.

I wouldn't be surprised if these sellers are bots.

  

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Post Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:53 pm 
 

Here are a few more that I came across:


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There was another "Lost Caverns of the Tsojconth" listed at $28.80 from hvuw328240957_6, but the listing has been removed and the seller is "No longer a registered user". Became an eBay member on 10/05/17  PDT_Armataz_01_03

I did inquire about the Lost Caverns and this is the reassuring response I received:
Hi, friends,
I have for your shipping products,
I believe the product will bring pleasure.
And I promise you will receive it in 25-35 days,
You know the product is very cheap to sell you.
So we can not provide tracking numbers.
But do not worry about any problems.
We can contact the post office at any time to contact the current arrival position and tell you.
Make sure you will be happy to use.
Thank you


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Post Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:40 pm 
 

PM-Knight wrote in China Scam..?:I believe the product will bring pleasure.


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Post Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:12 pm 
 

I had to look up the 4th print OD&D set I won for someone in a FB group and just searched the title of the listing and noticed the same exact listing had been sold again two weeks after I bought it by a Chinese seller with a $20 BIN (I thought I got a pretty good deal on mine but not that good). So obviously that one was BS.

I started thinking about it - of course Paypal is going to refund your money on this, so I guess Paypal is the one getting screwed on these in the end with their Buyer Protection Plan. I'd assume that the Paypal account for the seller is opened on a bogus Credit Card & Bank account that then evaporates when Paypal tries to get the money back from them.
I'd also assume that when Paypal loses enough money, they'll force eBay to crack down on this.

Interesting thing though. Foul's blocking Chinese sellers of old RPG stuff is definitely a good call. Not that it would be impossible for a Chinese seller to have this stuff but it's just too unlikely and no way are they going to sell this stuff for pennies on the dollar when they have a super hot Market for it right over in Japan.

But on things that are not this type of stuff. There are plenty of good Chinese Sellers and the shipping is cheap because the Chinese Government subsidizes the shipping. Clothing, Electronics, Pottery, etc. - the same stuff that is being barged over and sold in our stores is available from Chinese sellers on eBay.

I needed to replace my Sennheiser Ear Pad foams, they were $20 at Best Buy and 99¢ plus 49¢ shipping from a Chinese seller on eBay. Took 4 days to receive them and the quality was better than the originals. I feel bad for US sellers, how can someone compete against that - it's crazy.

  

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Post Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:30 pm 
 

I think this is likely the key point of the scam.

PM-Knight wrote in China Scam..?:And I promise you will receive it in 25-35 days,
You know the product is very cheap to sell you.
So we can not provide tracking numbers.


They will probably take a few days to get the item shipped out and then also if you inquire about the item, it will take a few days for them to get its location, etc.  And if they have done a good job of stringing a buyer along the time to file a claim will have expired or the buyer will have forgotten about the small purchase.

This could also be one of the reasons that Ebay has removed access to buyer email addresses (even in Paypal) - so as not to give out email address of people who have fallen for a scam and could be a target again.  Their main reason being they want to stop off Ebay sales but this sounds like a good excuse for justification.

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Mars wrote in China Scam..?:

This could also be one of the reasons that Ebay has removed access to buyer email addresses (even in Paypal) - so as not to give out email address of people who have fallen for a scam and could be a target again.  Their main reason being they want to stop off Ebay sales but this sounds like a good excuse for justification.


I hadn't noticed they had removed this info from paypal...

LOL.. ok edit..

Looks like the are going through doing high priced items $200+ of course if doesn't quite work when you copy a ebay listing like this..

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Post Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:05 pm 
 

Mister Yuk wrote in China Scam..?:But on things that are not this type of stuff. There are plenty of good Chinese Sellers and the shipping is cheap because the Chinese Government subsidizes the shipping. Clothing, Electronics, Pottery, etc. - the same stuff that is being barged over and sold in our stores is available from Chinese sellers on eBay.

I needed to replace my Sennheiser Ear Pad foams, they were $20 at Best Buy and 99¢ plus 49¢ shipping from a Chinese seller on eBay. Took 4 days to receive them and the quality was better than the originals. I feel bad for US sellers, how can someone compete against that - it's crazy.



This has become an entire collecting genre to me. I'll buy mostly useless junk for a few dollars just to see what the quality is like, which can be amazingly good or amazingly bad. Here's someone tearing apart the latter:
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Post Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:05 pm 
 

Mister Yuk wrote in China Scam..?:nteresting thing though. Foul's blocking Chinese sellers of old RPG stuff is definitely a good call. Not that it would be impossible for a Chinese seller to have this stuff but it's just too unlikely and no way are they going to sell this stuff for pennies on the dollar when they have a super hot Market for it right over in Japan.

I just ran across a listing for a 4th print OD&D set with a couple of other items yesterday being sold by one of those phony Chinese EBayers. I happened to notice the photo was taken from a fairly recent US sale. I was about to alert the seller from the US about this (as a seller that has a listing 'stolen' has more clout with EBay than any schmuk that just happens by), but then I could not locate the fake auction again.

So, the fake auctions are using fake photos at the very least. No real items in hand.


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sauromatian wrote in China Scam..?:
This has become an entire collecting genre to me. I'll buy mostly useless junk for a few dollars just to see what the quality is like, which can be amazingly good or amazingly bad. Here's someone tearing apart the latter:
WORLDS WORST KNIFE (Fake Swiss Army Knife / Multitool) - YouTube


Funny video, pot metal giftware crap disguised as a tool.

  
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