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Post Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:20 am 
 

Are there any rares/chase books from 2nd edition or where they all mass produced?

  

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Post Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:53 am 
 

Dark and Hidden Ways and Wild Things. These were shrink wrapped with 1E rulebooks, but are 2nd edition products.

The Planescape Sketchbook I think is the most sought after Planescape item and I believe also would be considered a rarity.

  

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Tarmogoyf wrote in AD&D 2nd Edition:Are there any rares/chase books from 2nd edition or where they all mass produced?


"The Complete Book of Necromancers"
Believe it or not, a splat book that regularly goes for $60 or more on eBay auctions. I've been chasing them for some time now after I let a $20 one get away from me at a local used book store.

  

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Post Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:18 pm 
 

beyond the hard to find books, there were some giveaways released in the "TSR Gold Promotion" that are collectible:

Ravenloft Introduction to the Land of the Mists map
Greyhawk XP Cards
Forgotten Realms "Secret Password" sheet
Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting map info "Faerun" (similar to the Ravenloft thing above)
"Catacombs of the Necromancer" sheet
there was also a Dragonlance bookmark, but I'm not sure how valuable those are


There are also some Dragonlance newsletter giveaways that are fairly uncommon "Legends of the Lance"

  

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Post Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:58 pm 
 

In my collecting experience, a few of the toughest/rarest 2nd Edition finds were the Player Packs (especially the Wizard pack).  These were large plastic cases with accessories to aid players playing Fighters, Wizards, Thieves, and Priests.

  

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:32 am 
 

misterspock wrote in AD&D 2nd Edition:beyond the hard to find books, there were some giveaways released in the "TSR Gold Promotion" that are collectible:

Ravenloft Introduction to the Land of the Mists map
Greyhawk XP Cards
Forgotten Realms "Secret Password" sheet
Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting map info "Faerun" (similar to the Ravenloft thing above)
"Catacombs of the Necromancer" sheet
there was also a Dragonlance bookmark, but I'm not sure how valuable those are


There are also some Dragonlance newsletter giveaways that are fairly uncommon "Legends of the Lance"


Argh!  A few more things I didn't know about.  :roll:

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:42 am 
 

MadCatUSA wrote in AD&D 2nd Edition:
Tarmogoyf wrote in AD&D 2nd Edition:Are there any rares/chase books from 2nd edition or where they all mass produced?


"The Complete Book of Necromancers" ....


Speaking of this one - anyone know how rare the hardback version of this is?
I have only seen a couple in years (on ebay) ... and of course forgot to bid on both  :lol:


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:07 pm 
 

red_bus wrote in AD&D 2nd Edition:
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"The Complete Book of Necromancers" ....


Speaking of this one - anyone know how rare the hardback version of this is?
I have only seen a couple in years (on ebay) ... and of course forgot to bid on both  :lol:


A hardback version? I´ve never heard of this. I´d think that this might probably have been rebound.

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:16 pm 
 

While I´m at it, I guess you all know the tome of treasures? Tome of Treasures for Role-Playing Games Collectibles
While the prices are hopelessly out of date, it does a pretty good job at listing quite a lot of stuff, even if far from complete (and no longer updated).

I guess that you would have to differentiate between the regular printed items and the limited promo stuff, such as misterspock listed. I don´t think that the regular items have all been printed in the same quantities. This is obvious for the core rule books, of course, but I guess that products printed towards the end of a product line might have been produced in lesser quantities.

I also think that the HR line of books (the green Historical Reference books) are pretty much sought also, even though I cannot tell how rare these really are. Between "being sought" and "being rare" can be quite a difference. :D

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:31 pm 
 

The promo Fast-Play adventures, especially Ruined Tower, are tough to find and a little pricey.  The Complete Starter Set (the big yellow one) is somewhat expensive, though you can usually always find one or two on eBay.  Birthright's Player's Secrets of Hogunmark isn't very common.  I guess the Adventurer's Guild stuff also fits in to the category of hard-to-find.


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Post Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2026 5:23 am 
 

I know this thread has been dormant for a while and I know that the focus of this website is 1e and older, but given my growing personal interest in 2e (as, except for the super rare stuff, I have 1E and older stuff already and just bought a new shelf ;-)), I am wondering if would at all be feasible to expand The Acaeum to expand to 2e.

Without this being scientific, but I have the feeling that some of the 2e books have actually become quite hard to find and some are truly in the rare categories, such as The Complete Necromancers, Ships & The Sea, Planescape...

Is there any part of this forum, where this is being discussed/evaluated?

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Post Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2026 9:31 pm 
 

rodnog wrote in AD&D 2nd Edition:I know this thread has been dormant for a while and I know that the focus of this website is 1e and older, but given my growing personal interest in 2e (as, except for the super rare stuff, I have 1E and older stuff already and just bought a new shelf ;-)), I am wondering if would at all be feasible to expand The Acaeum to expand to 2e.

Without this being scientific, but I have the feeling that some of the 2e books have actually become quite hard to find and some are truly in the rare categories, such as The Complete Necromancers, Ships & The Sea, Planescape...

Is there any part of this forum, where this is being discussed/evaluated?

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Not really a dedicated subforum, but there are quite a few of us here who actively collect 2nd Edition.

Your intuition about the scarcity of certain 2nd Edition items is spot-on. While early 2E core books and early PHBR handbooks were printed in massive quantities, the market tightens up significantly on late-era products.

Some reasons for the scarcity:

Late-Era TSR Print Runs (1996–1997): Products released right before and during the Wizards of the Coast acquisition, like Of Ships and the Sea or late Planescape and Dark Sun titles, had noticeably smaller print runs and restricted distribution compared to early 90s releases.

Limited Distribution & Product Quality: Titles like The Complete Book of Necromancers saw lower distribution/reprint runs than standard class handbooks, and items with loose map sheets or cards are increasingly tough to find complete in high grade.  The quality of the materials used was noticeably inferior, which also contributes to the scarcity of items in collectible condition.

Shift in TSR Strategy: Toward the end of 2E, TSR shifted heavily toward setting-specific accessory lines, which naturally fragmented the buyer base and reduced individual title print numbers compared to generic 1E modules.

In case you aren't aware of them already, here are some links that document 2nd Edition product lines, codes, and variations:

Stocklist

Category:Advanced Dungeons and Dragons 2nd Edition - The Acaeum Wiki

Tome of Treasures (AD&D 2E Section):
https://tomeoftreasures.com/tot_adnd/tot_adnd_home.htm

  


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 2:15 am 
 

dbartman wrote in AD&D 2nd Edition:Not really a dedicated subforum, but there are quite a few of us here who actively collect 2nd Edition.

Your intuition about the scarcity of certain 2nd Edition items is spot-on. While early 2E core books and early PHBR handbooks were printed in massive quantities, the market tightens up significantly on late-era products.

Some reasons for the scarcity:

Late-Era TSR Print Runs (1996–1997): Products released right before and during the Wizards of the Coast acquisition, like Of Ships and the Sea or late Planescape and Dark Sun titles, had noticeably smaller print runs and restricted distribution compared to early 90s releases.

Limited Distribution & Product Quality: Titles like The Complete Book of Necromancers saw lower distribution/reprint runs than standard class handbooks, and items with loose map sheets or cards are increasingly tough to find complete in high grade.  The quality of the materials used was noticeably inferior, which also contributes to the scarcity of items in collectible condition.

Shift in TSR Strategy: Toward the end of 2E, TSR shifted heavily toward setting-specific accessory lines, which naturally fragmented the buyer base and reduced individual title print numbers compared to generic 1E modules.

In case you aren't aware of them already, here are some links that document 2nd Edition product lines, codes, and variations:

Stocklist

Category:Advanced Dungeons and Dragons 2nd Edition - The Acaeum Wiki

Tome of Treasures (AD&D 2E Section):
https://tomeoftreasures.com/tot_adnd/tot_adnd_home.htm



Thanks, also for providing the links.

The reasons for the scarcity you mention have been the reason for the difficulties in getting my Brown, Blue and Green 2e Handbooks complete in at least VF condition: Split spines and poor binding and extreme rubbing on covers are just a few reasons for my Odyssee. Also, as you are certainly aware of, the poor cover qualiy of Draconomicon, Giantcraft, Drow... and others in this series.

In terms of catalogization, tsrarchives already is pretty good. I am more interested in the structure and regular updates on the valuation which is fantastic on acaeum and could be expanded to 2e.

I have started scraping NKG and dividing the prices there by 3 but it is a far cry from actual sales on ebay which are reflected in the acaeum.

  


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 11:11 am 
 

Many of the final 2nd edition books like Die Vecna Die, Carnival, Priests Spell Compendium Volume 3 are difficult to find (although that may be a UK thing).  

Stuff for the Planescape, Al-Qadim, and Dark Sun settings are expensive too - especially the box sets.

I find the Waynes Books reference site very useful to identify what should be present in second edition books and box sets.  There are often a lot of things that can be missing - especially poster maps, counter sheets, GM cards, and monster compendium sheets.  You really have to study the photos carefully as many resellers do not actually realise that a map is missing (or that's what they claim in any case).

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Post Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2026 2:05 am 
 

RyhopeWood wrote in AD&D 2nd Edition:Many of the final 2nd edition books like Die Vecna Die, Carnival, Priests Spell Compendium Volume 3 are difficult to find (although that may be a UK thing).  

Stuff for the Planescape, Al-Qadim, and Dark Sun settings are expensive too - especially the box sets.

I find the Waynes Books reference site very useful to identify what should be present in second edition books and box sets.  There are often a lot of things that can be missing - especially poster maps, counter sheets, GM cards, and monster compendium sheets.  You really have to study the photos carefully as many resellers do not actually realise that a map is missing (or that's what they claim in any case).

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I did not know about Wayne's books, thanks for that. It complements tsrarchive quite well.

But it still does not solve the problem of valuation. AFAIK, Wayne's Books is a commercial seller and thus pricing is, as in the case of NKG, beyond the "market pricing" on ebay.

  

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You can look at eBay’s Product Research area (formerly Terapeak) to get a really good idea of the sold values:

https://www.ebay.com/sh/research?market ... bName=SOLD

I recommend looking at a 3-year timeframe to start, though keep in mind eBay defaults to 1 year or 90 days if you don't adjust the date picker. A 1-year window will show you current trends, especially with higher volume items.

Here's a filtered search example (that might or might not work depending on your account permissions/login state) for The Complete Book of Necromancers:

https://www.ebay.com/sh/research?market ... 2FNew_York

This has been filtered for the categories: Toys & Hobbies > Games > Role Playing Games > Dungeons & Dragons to eliminate extraneous entries like non-gaming novels or unrelated computer games.

Note that the average sold price (around $104 over 3 years) includes all conditions, so you'll want to filter out low-end "reading copies" or high-end NM/M copies to get an accurate number for a specific book.

  


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2026 11:49 am 
 

dbartman wrote in AD&D 2nd Edition:You can look at eBay’s Product Research area (formerly Terapeak) to get a really good idea of the sold values:

https://www.ebay.com/sh/research?market ... bName=SOLD

I recommend looking at a 3-year timeframe to start, though keep in mind eBay defaults to 1 year or 90 days if you don't adjust the date picker. A 1-year window will show you current trends, especially with higher volume items.

Here's a filtered search example (that might or might not work depending on your account permissions/login state) for The Complete Book of Necromancers:

https://www.ebay.com/sh/research?market ... 2FNew_York


This has been filtered for the categories: Toys & Hobbies > Games > Role Playing Games > Dungeons & Dragons to eliminate extraneous entries like non-gaming novels or unrelated computer games.

Note that the average sold price (around $104 over 3 years) includes all conditions, so you'll want to filter out low-end "reading copies" or high-end NM/M copies to get an accurate number for a specific book.


I never knew where that info was on eBay. Very helpful
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Post Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2026 7:04 am 
 

jeffsea wrote in AD&D 2nd Edition:
I never knew where that info was on eBay. Very helpful
Thank you


Oh wow, that is really helpful and I thought this was only accessible for "ebay premium platinum plus" members...

Is this what acaeum links to for the pricing data?

  
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