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Post Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:48 pm 
 

I'm trying to get my miscellaneous TSR section in shape and I think I'm going to try to split it in to wargames, board games and misc RPGs (basically RPGs that only have one or two items, not worth their own section).  I have experience with a number of these but by no means all of them.  Some of you experts help me out here and let me know which ones I've categorized incorrectly or anything that I missed completely.  (Thanks to Thunderdave's thread for getting me started on this.)

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Wargames  - Miniatures
Air Power
Bio One
Cavaliers and Roundheads
Chainmail
Classic Warfare
Cordite and Steel
Don't Give Up the Ship
Field Regulations
Legions of the Petal Throne
Modern Armor
Panzer Warfare
Tricolor
Warriors of Mars (RPG elements)
Valley Forge
Tractics

Wargames -- Hex & Counter
The African Campaign
Battle of the Five Armies
Dawn Patrol (RPG elements)
Divine Right
Fight in the Skies (RPG elements)
Little Big Horn
Star Empires
Star Probe
William the Conqueror 1066

SPI Games
The Battle Over Britain
Firefight
Barbarossa
Bug Hunt: Sniper Companion III
Cobra
Napolean's Last Battles
Hetzer Sniper
Moscow 1941: The Enemy at the Gates
Onslaught: D-Day to the Rhine
Rebel Sabers
Sniper/Patrol
Sniper! Special Forces Companion Game
Spies
Terrible Swift Sword
The Twilight War
World War II: European Theater of Operations
World War II: Pacific Theater of Operations

Board Games
4th Dimension
The Awful Green Things From Outer Space
The Best of Dragon Magazine Games
Cohorts
DragonQuest Game
Dungeon!
Fantasy Forest
Knights of Camelot
Lankhmar
Legend of Heroes
Magestones
Mertwig's Maze
Quest for the Dungeon Master
Snits Revenge
Suspicion
War of Wizards
Warlocks and Warriors

Licensed Board Games
All My Children
The Broadway Game
Chase
Cheers
Crosscheck
Crosse
Elixir
Escape From New York
The Honeymooners Game
The Hunt for Red October
I Think You Think I Think
The Kage Game
Maxi Bour$e
Perry Mason
The Steppe Game
Web of Gold

Board Game / War Games - not sure where to stick these
Europe Aflame
A Line in the Sand
Red Storm Rising
Sirocco

Mini Games
Attack Force
Icebergs
Remember the Alamo!
Revolt on Antares
SAGA
They've Invaded Pleasantville
Vampyre
Viking Gods


Misc. RPGs
Bullwinkle and Rocky Role Playing Party Game
DragonQuest
Empire of the Petal Throne
Metamorphosis Alpha


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Post Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:59 pm 
 

If I was doing what you're doing, I would separate "wargames" into two categories - "miniatures rules" and "hex and chit wargames". Or maybe just change "wargames" to "miniatures rules" and put the hex and chit games under "boardgames".

  

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Post Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:21 pm 
 

lippy wrote in TSR wargames/boardgames:If I was doing what you're doing, I would separate "wargames" into two categories - "miniatures rules" and "hex and chit wargames". Or maybe just change "wargames" to "miniatures rules" and put the hex and chit games under "boardgames".


Battle of the Five Armies is a hex and chit.


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Post Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:53 am 
 

Okay, I like the idea of splitting the wargames up.  Some of these I know off the top of my head but some I'll have to research a little.  Any thoughts on splitting up the board games?  Maybe pull the SPI stuff out separately?


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Post Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 11:45 am 
 

Yeah, as I thought about this, that was another thing that crossed my mind (splitting out SPI). The way I look at it, there are three broad categories here that are very distinct from one another - "minis rules", "TSR boardgames" and "TSR/SPI boardgames". You could certainly make further subdivisions under "TSR boardgames" if you wanted for things like war-board games, mini (micro) games, party games... depends on how detailed you want to get on the subject.

When I was collecting these games, I found the advanced search on boardgamegeek very helpful for figuring out which games were which. I can also answer just about any question you have on any of the "TSR boardgames" from the pre-SPI takeover period (and a few from the post-SPI takeover period). Not that I've played most of them :oops:.

  


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Post Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:25 pm 
 

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Wargame:
The African Campaign

Board Games:
Remember the Alamo!
They've Invaded Pleasantville
Vampyre
Viking Gods
SAGA
Attack Force
Icebergs
Revolt on Antares


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Post Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:36 pm 
 

Warriors of Mars has miniatures rules and is also considered an RPG. Would you rather list things twice, perhaps with an asterisk, indicating that they are also listed in another section, or just list an item once (perhaps again with an asterisk indicating that a listing could also have been placed in a different area)?


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Post Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:46 pm 
 

Howdy,


Minature War Games
Air Power
Cavaliers and Roundheads
Chainmail
Classic Warfare
Cordite and Steel
Don't Give Up the Ship
Field Regulations
Legions of the Petal Throne
Modern Armor
Panzer Warfare
Tractics
Tricolor
Valley Forge
Warriors of Mars

Board War Games
African Campaign, The
Attack Force
Barbarossa
Battle of the Five Armies
Battle Over Britain, The
Bug Hunt: Sniper Companion III
Cobra
Dawn Patrol
Divine Right
Europe Aflame
Famous Battles of Napoleon Quad
Fight in the Skies
Firefight
Hetzer Sniper
Hunt for Red October, The
Lankhmar
Line in the Sand, A
Little Big Horn
Moscow 1941: The Enemy at the Gates
Onslaught: D-Day to the Rhine
Pacific Theater
Rebel Sabers
Red Storm Rising
Remember the Alamo!
Revolt on Antares
Sirocco
Sniper! Special Forces Companion Game
Sniper/Patrol
Terrible Swift Sword
Twilight War, The
William the Conqueror 1066
World War II

Board Games
4th Dimension
All My Children
Awful Green Things From Outer Space, The
Best of Dragon Magazine Games, The
Bio One
Broadway Game, The
Chase
Cheers
Cohorts
Crosscheck
Crosse
DragonQuest Game
Dungeon!
Elixir
Escape From New York
Fantasy Forest
Great Khan Game, The
Honeymooners Game, The
I Think You Think I Think
Icebergs
Kage Game, The
Knights of Camelot
Legend of Heroes
Magestones
Maxi Bour$e
Mertwig's Maze
Perry Mason
Quest for the Dungeon Master
Saga
Snits Revenge
Spies
Star Empires
Star Probe
Steppe Game, The
Suspicion
They've Invaded Pleasantville
Vampyre
Viking Gods
War of Wizards
Warlocks and Warriors
Web of Gold

Crossover RPG Items
Warlords of Mars
Dawn patrol


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Post Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:08 pm 
 

Okay, I updated the list above.  Paul, your last post went up while I was in the process of editing and posting so I'll go back and take another look.  I separated the board games out a little further to put all those '80s licensed products in their own group.  I just couldn't feel good about having All My Children in the same category as Snits Revenge.  I think rather than double-listing items I'll note in the individual descriptions which ones have an RPG component to them.  Thanks for all the help, everybody!  I think this is shaping up nicely in pretty short order.


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Post Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:16 pm 
 

also, include games that came in Dragon too /that boxed edition that had a bunch of the Dragon games "Best of the Dragon Magazine Games"

  

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Post Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:53 am 
 

lippy wrote in TSR wargames/boardgames:Yeah, as I thought about this, that was another thing that crossed my mind (splitting out SPI). The way I look at it, there are three broad categories here that are very distinct from one another - "minis rules", "TSR boardgames" and "TSR/SPI boardgames". You could certainly make further subdivisions under "TSR boardgames" if you wanted for things like war-board games, mini (micro) games, party games... depends on how detailed you want to get on the subject.

When I was collecting these games, I found the advanced search on boardgamegeek very helpful for figuring out which games were which. I can also answer just about any question you have on any of the "TSR boardgames" from the pre-SPI takeover period (and a few from the post-SPI takeover period). Not that I've played most of them :oops:.


There's smtg similar also for the tsr and guidon games...  There are some miniature wargames which have been issued during the acquisition of the guidon games... My first tought goes to tractics where i have always had problems in getting the rigth sequence of editions... (and then there are dguts and hopefully other games)
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