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Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:49 pm 
 

Anyone having trouble with the USPS marking packages as Dead Mail?

So far three packages being sent to me have been marked as Dead Mail and cannot be delivered or returned. None of my packages seem to have this problem, but just things I've ordered,


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:59 am 
 

I don't think I've seen that before.

I did receive a small mailing package that was utterly mangled/destroyed, then re-taped by USPS (including half the item halfway hanging out of the package with nothing but tape holding it together) and then delivered. I've never received anything close to this shape before and it was not the artist's packaging either.

  

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 11:32 am 
 

misterspock wrote in Trouble with USPS.:I don't think I've seen that before.

I did receive a small mailing package that was utterly mangled/destroyed, then re-taped by USPS (including half the item halfway hanging out of the package with nothing but tape holding it together) and then delivered. I've never received anything close to this shape before and it was not the artist's packaging either.


Postmaster at my local branch said that with the holiday rush they are getting a lot of heavy media mail packages that aren't well packed enough to survive that handling.


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:35 pm 
 

Hi Jason,

I'm curious about this.  I always thought "dead mail" was mail that couldn't be delivered, IE both addresses were completely unreadable, etc.

This begs the question:  If they couldn't be delivered or returned, how did you get them?  And how did you discover they were "dead mail?"


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:03 pm 
 

Agent Cooper wrote in Trouble with USPS.:Hi Jason,

I'm curious about this.  I always thought "dead mail" was mail that couldn't be delivered, IE both addresses were completely unreadable, etc.

This begs the question:  If they couldn't be delivered or returned, how did you get them?  And how did you discover they were "dead mail?"


I was reading up on it and asked the postmaster as well. If there is no return address and the postage does not cover the shipping it is sent to the dead mail facility in atlanta. I suspect they may be checking excessivly heavy media parcels that have no return addresses. The tracking number doesn't seem to record the shipper's address only their town, state and zip code. My address is of no help because they won't ship a postage due item that cannot be returned. So the fault seems to rest entirely on the shipper. The USPS also classifies magazines as dated material without value and not save. I'm not sure how they would classify modules.


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:39 pm 
 

Haven't had that happen before. I usually get the deal where the tracking says it was delivered to my home, but I find nothing on my porch. Fortunately, it's not frequent (about once every year-and-a-half to two years), but it is rather annoying. I sometimes wonder if the carriers here can even read. We do tend to see a lot of turnover in the position.


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JasonZavoda wrote in Trouble with USPS.:
Agent Cooper wrote in Trouble with USPS.:Hi Jason,

I'm curious about this.  I always thought "dead mail" was mail that couldn't be delivered, IE both addresses were completely unreadable, etc.

This begs the question:  If they couldn't be delivered or returned, how did you get them?  And how did you discover they were "dead mail?"


I was reading up on it and asked the postmaster as well. If there is no return address and the postage does not cover the shipping it is sent to the dead mail facility in atlanta. I suspect they may be checking excessivly heavy media parcels that have no return addresses. The tracking number doesn't seem to record the shipper's address only their town, state and zip code. My address is of no help because they won't ship a postage due item that cannot be returned. So the fault seems to rest entirely on the shipper. The USPS also classifies magazines as dated material without value and not save. I'm not sure how they would classify modules.



OK, got it.  But how did you find your packages were in dead mail in the first place?  And how did you eventually get the packages out of Postal Purgatory?

Right now I'm guessing you had to call the postal service to see what happened and then pay the shipping yourself, would that be right?  If so, did you get reimbursed by the shipper?


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:09 pm 
 

Agent Cooper wrote in Trouble with USPS.:
JasonZavoda wrote in Trouble with USPS.:
I was reading up on it and asked the postmaster as well. If there is no return address and the postage does not cover the shipping it is sent to the dead mail facility in atlanta. I suspect they may be checking excessivly heavy media parcels that have no return addresses. The tracking number doesn't seem to record the shipper's address only their town, state and zip code. My address is of no help because they won't ship a postage due item that cannot be returned. So the fault seems to rest entirely on the shipper. The USPS also classifies magazines as dated material without value and not save. I'm not sure how they would classify modules.



OK, got it.  But how did you find your packages were in dead mail in the first place?  And how did you eventually get the packages out of Postal Purgatory?

Right now I'm guessing you had to call the postal service to see what happened and then pay the shipping yourself, would that be right?  If so, did you get reimbursed by the shipper?


One package they said they found either just the top of the box or the empty box and cut the label off with my address anjd the tracking number and mailed it to me. The second and third packages all I have is the information on the usps website. I've received nothing but the cut-off mailing label and expect that the contents of all three are gone for good.

What is going on in the philly hub I have no idea or how they are scanning the labels and marking them as Dead Mail.  I found out about all three packages just by checking the tracking info.


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:55 pm 
 

JasonZavoda wrote in Trouble with USPS.:Anyone having trouble with the USPS marking packages as Dead Mail?

So far three packages being sent to me have been marked as Dead Mail and cannot be delivered or returned. None of my packages seem to have this problem, but just things I've ordered,


I have lived at a couple of addresses with problems like this. In one case, the post office had recorded my address differently than my landlord had it marked on the house and mailbox. In another case, the post office had returned mail for me to the senders, marking it "Address Does Not Exist." So maybe your post office has somehow mis-recorded your address.

  

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Post Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:46 pm 
 

sauromatian wrote in Trouble with USPS.:
JasonZavoda wrote in Trouble with USPS.:Anyone having trouble with the USPS marking packages as Dead Mail?

So far three packages being sent to me have been marked as Dead Mail and cannot be delivered or returned. None of my packages seem to have this problem, but just things I've ordered,


I have lived at a couple of addresses with problems like this. In one case, the post office had recorded my address differently than my landlord had it marked on the house and mailbox. In another case, the post office had returned mail for me to the senders, marking it "Address Does Not Exist." So maybe your post office has somehow mis-recorded your address.


Well the first one they sent the address label and said that the 'wrapper' of the package had been found but nothing else. I'm still getting packages, just two from one seller (sent three dyas apart) and one from another seller. All were big, heavy packages. I'm inclined to think that with the holiday rush they may have extra people who may be handling the packages badly, such as grabbing them by the edge and hauling them one handed.


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misterspock wrote in Trouble with USPS.:if you were wondering why your 2nd print Woodgrain never got delivered or maybe an OB3 or (INSERT RARE D&D ITEM HERE) ...

Feds: Postal Worker Stashed Nearly 50,000 Pieces Of Undelivered Mail In Her California Apartment | The Smoking Gun



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Post Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:40 pm 
 

Just an FYI:  I got a package today that had been stamped with a "Open and inspected by the USPS" and had a note inside saying that the package had been inspected to insure it was actually media mail (it had been shipped media mail), and the package passed inspection. It is interesting to note the package was entirely composed of gaming modules (LofFP, Chaotic Henchmen, and a few others) so at least in this case, these items were considered media mail.

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Post Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:58 pm 
 

The USPS opened a box that contained LotFP and let it through?  I would have thought for sure that stuff would be confiscated. . . or perhaps get you put onto a government watchlist?  You may want to check your house for bugs, Mike.   8O  :lol:


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Badmike wrote in Trouble with USPS.:Just an FYI:  I got a package today that had been stamped with a "Open and inspected by the USPS" and had a note inside saying that the package had been inspected to insure it was actually media mail (it had been shipped media mail), and the package passed inspection. It is interesting to note the package was entirely composed of gaming modules (LofFP, Chaotic Henchmen, and a few others) so at least in this case, these items were considered media mail.

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I actually have the post office by me stamp my packages with this ahead of time to avoid problems later on.  If I ship media mail I seal it up in front of them and they stamp it with said stamp.  They know me on a first name basis because of my weekly package drop offs so it's no big deal.  It's only a problem later on when they stamp it later... as I learned when shipping Dungeon Tiles and even though it had an ISBN, they didn't consider it a book.  I failed my Persuasion roll and had to pay the higher postage.   :D

  

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Post Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:35 am 
 

I don't have any good things to add, except that there is a huge retail location near me that buys their items from the "Dead Mail" location in Atlanta.

Mike, if you'll let me know what you lost, at least I'll have something to look forward to adding to my collection in the future!  :D  8)


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Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 2:15 am 
 

Bracton wrote in Trouble with USPS.:The USPS opened a box that contained LotFP and let it through?  I would have thought for sure that stuff would be confiscated. . . or perhaps get you put onto a government watchlist?  You may want to check your house for bugs, Mike.   8O  :lol:



Not only that, it was some of the more....questionable LofFP titles, like "Fuck for Satan".  Probably am on a watchlist at this point....

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