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Post Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:20 pm 
 

Hello!

I'm not even sure if this is the right place to ask this question, so if the moderators need to move it, please feel free!

Right then; here's my question: I've been a big fan of Prof. M. A. R. Barker's "Empire of the Petal Throne" since I first read the game back in 1975. I went to work for him in 1976, and eventually became his publisher, both professionally and as a fan. I have shelves full of books, games, fanzines, and all the other stuff we published over the years; I have multiple copies of everything, due to a variety of factors. I'm in the process of getting ready to run a virtual campaign, and I'd kind of like to get some of that shelf space back - I do not need ten copies of this, five of that, etc. I will keep one 'working copy' of everything for my use, but I'd like to find the rest a good home.

What should I do? I'm told that there's some very rare stuff in there, but I don't know anything about the collecting side of our hobby; I've always been the guy running games at conventions or here at the house. I'll be going to Gary Con, this year - my first gaming convention in decades! - and I understand that there's a game auction; I am taking a pair of TSR games to sell there - the old "Dragonlance" and "Dragon Strike" (with original VHS tape, of all things!) board games - and I was wondering if that would be a good venue to dispose of my spare copies. Or, should I contact one of the 'big-name' dealers in the field'? I gather that some of them will be at the convention, and since I am taking my cargo van down to Lake Geneva, I have the room to take stuff.

As I say, I have no idea what the world of collecting is like, and can use all of your collective wisdom and advice. Thanks in advance!

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Post Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:05 pm 
 

Welcome chirinebakal!  You are not the first person to ask this kind of question about how best to sell your stuff.  I would say that going the auction route at Gary Con is probably not the best route to maximize your sales price, but there are advantages of going that route.  The first advantage is that you don't have to pack stuff up to mail or deal with buyers saying they didn't receive their item, or that it was damaged in transit, etc...  You also get to see the buyers and know the items are likely going to someone who really appreciates what you are selling.  They might even want to meet you and say thanks.  Another advantage is that, once you take it to Gary Con, it's likely gone, done and over with.  Your shelves are emptier and you have money in your pocket.

The items you are talking about sound like they would be interesting to lots of collectors, most of whom will not visit Gary Con this year.  If you take good pictures of your items, write good descriptions and have a decent reputation, your buying/bidding audience can go from several hundred to thousands by selling on eBay.  While eBay takes a cut, I imagine any auction would also take a cut.

Condition is a huge factor in an item's sale price.  While you could give lots of assurances that everything is pristine, complete, or whatever, long-time collectors here are picky about particulars and have to assume the worst.  Pictures are a great way to determine value, and if you posted pictures of your items, I am confident you could get some very helpful assessments and probably even some offers.

The answer to your question may lie with its condition/value.  If an item is pristine, old and valuable, then the difference in price gained warrants a less haphazard sales strategy.  But if you items are worth less than $50.00 on eBay, then what's the big deal about getting $45 instead of $50 at an auction?

If you are going to Gary Con anyway, I recommend you consider taking at least one of each item for people to look over and assess.  There are quite a few folks from this community who probably have everything you are selling and could tell you what you have without them bugging you to sell it to them.  I am not sure what the policy is at Gary Con of selling items on site, but most cons are cool with you trading one item for another.  Cons also have no problem with your getting a sales assessment.

Finally, you may want to look into creating Certificates of Authenticity for each/some of these items and their connection to the author, especially if he gave them to you, or signed them, or something like that.  I don't know if these would help increase their value, but it couldn't hurt.

When it comes to advice, there are no places where you can find people who know their D&D collecting better.  There is more that I could say, but maybe this will get the discussion started.  Good luck and welcome!   :)


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:05 am 
 

chirinebakal wrote in A question from a new guy...:Hello!

I'm not even sure if this is the right place to ask this question, so if the moderators need to move it, please feel free!

Right then; here's my question: I've been a big fan of Prof. M. A. R. Barker's "Empire of the Petal Throne" since I first read the game back in 1975. I went to work for him in 1976, and eventually became his publisher, both professionally and as a fan. I have shelves full of books, games, fanzines, and all the other stuff we published over the years; I have multiple copies of everything, due to a variety of factors. I'm in the process of getting ready to run a virtual campaign, and I'd kind of like to get some of that shelf space back - I do not need ten copies of this, five of that, etc. I will keep one 'working copy' of everything for my use, but I'd like to find the rest a good home.

What should I do? I'm told that there's some very rare stuff in there, but I don't know anything about the collecting side of our hobby; I've always been the guy running games at conventions or here at the house. I'll be going to Gary Con, this year - my first gaming convention in decades! - and I understand that there's a game auction; I am taking a pair of TSR games to sell there - the old "Dragonlance" and "Dragon Strike" (with original VHS tape, of all things!) board games - and I was wondering if that would be a good venue to dispose of my spare copies. Or, should I contact one of the 'big-name' dealers in the field'?


It depends.

If you just want them to go to someone who will appreciate them, then GaryCon is a great place to have them auctioned.

However - I'm pretty sure all auctioning there is of donated items, with the proceeds going to various gaming-related causes.  So, if you're looking to get the best return on your items...that's not the venue for you.

extsr (Frank Mentzer) and stromber (sp?  Paul Stormberg) can advise you further, if you contact them here or on GaryCon board.

  


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:28 am 
 

chirinebakal wrote in A question from a new guy...:Or, should I contact one of the 'big-name' dealers in the field'? I gather that some of them will be at the convention, and since I am taking my cargo van down to Lake Geneva, I have the room to take stuff.


I would recommend following Chris' advice, and bring one of each of your items to the con, or at least a listing of them.  There will definitely be a number of collectors there, and you could certainly transact sales, but if you're not sure what you have and/or it's value, it's better to do some research first.  If you're looking for some input, I'll be at the Black Blade booth in the dealer's hall, and would be happy to provide some guidance if you're interested.


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:21 am 
 

Thank you, everyone, for your very kind and very informative replies! I'll look into the various suggestions you've made, and see what we can do.

I would prefer not to use e-bay; I have had some poor experiences there buying miniatures second-hand, only to discover I'd been sold 'pirate' figures, and as a result I do not go there anymore. Selling at Gen Con is a great suggestion - I used to the convention quite a lot when I was in the industry, years ago - but is not an option for me right now, due to the wife's treatments for breast cancer. May be getting an agent, or something...?  :)

If I may, I would like to compliment all of you on the civility and decency of you folks here at The Acaeum; I have been looking in on this forum for quite a while, and I've found it both informative and lacking the nastiness of quite a few places on the Internet. I've found that if somebody is not on this forum, I need to be wary of them as collectors; my wife and I had a very bad experience with a gaming guest, here at the house, who presented herself to us a big fan of Tekumel and who simply wanted to get a grip on my collections. We had an entire year of game events ruined by her continually telling me and my other guests what 'inappropriate shelving' I had in my game room (wooden, and built as a project with my daughters) and how I was "unfit to have such a valuable collection". Things got very nasty in short order, and the wife and I had to spend a fair bit of cash on lawyers to finally get rid of her and her business partners.

You folks are all a lot nicer...  :)

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:13 am 
 

Chirine,

All who have posted before me are respected members of this community and their advice is valid of course.  Another option may be to list and show pictures of your items here to see if any of the collectors have interest.  Not all of use here have *everything* yet, so you might be surprised at the interest you'll get.  Our collecting community is a respectful and trustworthy group - I've had over a dozen transactions with people here and everyone of them (items and sellers) has been absolutely stellar.

Also, posting pictures helps us identify rarity, printing, condition and value; this helps you with getting the right amount for the items you want to sell.

Hope that helps some and welcome to the site,

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:21 pm 
 

throwi wrote in A question from a new guy...:Chirine,

All who have posted before me are respected members of this community and their advice is valid of course.  Another option may be to list and show pictures of your items here to see if any of the collectors have interest.  Not all of use here have *everything* yet, so you might be surprised at the interest you'll get.  Our collecting community is a respectful and trustworthy group - I've had over a dozen transactions with people here and everyone of them (items and sellers) has been absolutely stellar.

Also, posting pictures helps us identify rarity, printing, condition and value; this helps you with getting the right amount for the items you want to sell.

Hope that helps some and welcome to the site,

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Agreed, list them here and some very quick sales may be the outcome  :wink:


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:09 pm 
 

Hello and welcome!

I'd suggest listing items out here with photos, and then give some people some time to catch the thread. There's always a few members on here who don't catch the posts immediately (especially overseas collectors, which there are a number of on here) and could conceivably get you more than you're originally thinking.

  

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:08 pm 
 

Hi Chirine,

I just recently become familiar with Tekumel, and I am currently looking for a copy of the first edition box copy of the game. (I am interested in using the material to play - not just the fact it is a collectable).  So if you have an extra copy, please send me a message on the board.

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Post Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:42 am 
 

I'm still alive! I've been down sick with a very bad case of bronchitis, and not able to do much more then really basic stuff. I'd like to thank everyone who's sent messages - I'll try and get caught up as soon as I can.

I will be at Gary Con, I am happy to report; I am doing some seminars on the early days of EPT / Tekumel and Gary's influence, and I've been asked to run a game of EPT for people. I will be at the convention from about ten AM Friday to about four PM on Sunday, and I will be available for anyone who wants to talk to me. I am planning on bringing some of my Tekumel artifacts for 'show and tell', and I'll also box up my spare paper goods for people to look at.

What's happening is that my lovely Missus has compiled all of our massive collection of Tekumel materials into digital format, and so I can look at anything we have in the collections on my computer. This has, to be frank, rendered a lot of my paper holdings sorta useless to me, and my thought is to put them out there for folks to use and enjoy. I will try and get photos up for everyone - how does one do that, if I may ask?

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Post Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:39 pm 
 

chirinebakal wrote in A question from a new guy...:
What's happening is that my lovely Missus has compiled all of our massive collection of Tekumel materials into digital format, and so I can look at anything we have in the collections on my computer. This has, to be frank, rendered a lot of my paper holdings sorta useless to me, and my thought is to put them out there for folks to use and enjoy. I will try and get photos up for everyone - how does one do that, if I may ask?

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