Up until recently I've had only excellent transactions with Noble Knight so I really felt that Gnat was overeacting with his various posts about NK's dealings on ebay. Now I owe Gnat an apology and understand what he has been talking about.

I just ran into those exact same problems myself. NK is vomiting forth a huge amount of material onto ebay and in their haste to post they have decided to sacrifice accuracy and truth and, sadly, their reputation.

I've noticed a small number of their auctions have no pictures. This is actually a smart move on their part because they have decided to use what they refer to as 'Stock Photos' for quite a number of their auctions. I have no objection to stock photos for many products such as brand new in-the-package items, or multiple items that are in the exact same condition (which again you find with most brand new items).

What NK has been doing is using these 'Stock Photos' to not only create confusion about items that are actually in poor condition with a 'Stock Photo' of an item in excellent condition, but to show items of different printings (without mentioning that the actual is an item of a different printing) and items that are low grade reproductions of the item pictured.

Noble Knight seems to have embraced Caveat Emptor or the Buyer Beware policy when purchasing from them. Some items they have on ebay are exactly as advertised but a good number were not. I can no longer buy with confidence from Noble Knight and suggest asking questions and being careful before buying from them. This is an extremely disappointing development.

Man, that sucks!

I guess I have to post something like the wording below every so often in regards to this seller.
EDIT: I have ONLY Stated ONCE that I have ever purchased anything from KNG that arrived in bad condition, or in any condition lower than what I expected it to be.
I Normally know the condition ahead of time because I had asked for pictures of the actual items with detailed descriptions....

I created a post several weeks back after seeing listing after listing after listing after listing (DOZENS of them) by KNG on e-Bay where the Pictures not only did not match descriptions but were not even the same items either in part or totally different.
Example:
A listing for a so-called 2nd print Deities and Demigods that is actually a 3rd or 4th print (128 pages, no squids).
Pictures would look the same anyway, so the fact that a stock picture was used was irrelevant for this situation.
However when asked they admitted it is the 128 pages version, which is NOT a 1st or 2nd print.
KNG excuse... they do not follow printing data as detailed from the Acaeum archives.
To them if it has the squids it is a 1st print, all others are 2nd prints.
Most of us know that there are actually 4 distinct printings of that book (same cover) the 1st and 2nd prints have squids (144 pages), the 3rd and 4th do not (128 pages).

So basically KNG is saying that they do not use the printing and other detailed info from the Acaeum archives, yet at the same time they have no problem using stock photos taken from those exact same archives.
MANY of the pictures they use on a daily basis are taken directly from the Acaeum ...
Apparently they got permission from the admin of the Acaeum to do so many years ago.
I have no problem with that specific thing, it is how they misuse those pics that gives me concerns.

Another example:
They listed (for several months) A copy of Jade Hare with a picture of the cover.
Title simply says RARE Jade Hare with a huge price BIN.
Yet the one being sold is a coverless Jade Hare.
You have to read way down into the last sentence of the description to see that the cover version is not for sale.

Several folks (including myself) posted plenty of other instances where KNG listings were misleading at the least.
Many of them were simply wrong on one or more vital key points.

I started that other thread as a warning to my fellow Acaeum Members to be very careful when buying anything from KNG.
ASK QUESTIONS before you hit a BIN... and whenever possible get photos of the ACTUAL item being sold.

I am no longer even trying to watch listings by KNG now.
You who have been reading threads warning you of questionable sellers on e-Bay:
Knoble Knight Games, Cougarrinard, Troll and Toad, Little Princess Freya (or whomever it is this week) and others...
You will make your own choices: Buy at your own risk...
Just be careful out there is all I am trying to say to you...

Before I close this post let me say this yet again:
EDIT: I have ONLY Stated ONCE that I have ever purchased anything from KNG that arrived in bad condition, or in any condition lower than what I expected it to be.
I Normally know the condition ahead of time because I had asked for pictures of the actual items with detailed descriptions....

I realize that this is only tangentially related, but I figured this was the place to mention it.

I had a collecting emergency (I know it's not a real emergency, but I create the drama I need) and after coming up with nothing on eBay I started looking elsewhere. Basically, I needed an older copy of CoC and I needed it before June 5th. NKG had nothing, so I reluctantly decided to try Troll & Toad. Having read Gnat's posts before I requested pictures of the item in question.

It took them a few days, but I got three images showing exactly what I wanted to see. I went ahead and pulled the trigger, I will update this if I do not get what I saw, but I feel confident buying from them at this time. I figure the same process applies to Noble Knight.

I figure it is important to share the good as well as the bad. I was pleasantly surprised


Zach

Well my only defense is that it was true. To be honest I blame you and Doug. I wouldn't need this if I didn't decide to come to your con. Ipso facto, its all your guys' fault.

Zach

Edit: I am unsure whether I should be angry or proud to make the quote list right under Cougar. I guess for now I will take it as a badge of honor.  

Bracton wrote:
Collectio, ergo sum?

Well it must be collectio, because it certainly isn't cogito.

Zach

Nogrod wrote:

Bracton wrote:
Collectio, ergo sum?

Well it must be collectio, because it certainly isn't cogito.

Zach

That will do for me.    


Collectio, ergo sum, for Homo ludens

If I ever open a game store, I'm going to call it Knighty Night Games.  

benjoshua wrote:

Kingofpain89 wrote:If I ever open a game store, I'm going to call it Knighty Night Games.  :)

Not the BOOM BOOM ROOM?  

Now that would be a good name for the all-nude roller derby place behind the game store.  Or a gun shop.  Either way you'll get a finder's fee.