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Post Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:02 pm 
 

Do they exist?  Been asking about this for a while now.  I sort of half thought they might show up after the passing of our dearly beloved Gary Gygax, but alas, no trace of them or any concrete information on their existence has surfaced as far as I know, but then again, there was a period recently when I missed a shitload of activity here.  

How exactly were they "used as tournament modules at Origins '78"?  The fact that this is acknowledged suggests there was some prepublication iteration of them actually used as tourney mods.  Anyone have any factual information to that end?  Who would've thought that the original printing plates to the "re-called" printing of OB3 would have been easier to find than the original G-series tourney pre-pubs?

  

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:27 pm 
 

bombadil wrote:Do they exist?  

How exactly were they "used as tournament modules at Origins '78"?  The fact that this is acknowledged suggests there was some prepublication iteration of them actually used as tourney mods...


I am sure they exist. So do tourny copies of the A-series. However, these would have been DM copies. Could be they were collected after tournament was complete in order to do scoring. I don't know. Funny how they do not surface anywhere. At least I have never seen one.

On that note, you have to wonder why they did not print convention copies of the tournaments like they did with Inverness, etc. I need to ask Frank that next time I talk to him.


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:31 pm 
 

I did ask Frank a few years ago, and he supplied an interesting answer that I've since forgotten.  Maybe he'll pop up in here and help us out again.  I agree though, they must be out there somewhere...

  


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:06 pm 
 

Not sure about the tournament copies, but Frank mentioned this recently:

his typewritten originals of the G and D series had been dumped in the trash.


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:45 pm 
 

Zenopus wrote:Not sure about the tournament copies, but Frank mentioned this recently:



No shock there. Seems they had an express lane to that f..king dumpster. But there had to be dozens of DM copies of the tournament modules. Those events were pretty damn big back then. I played in the A series tournament and there were a bunch of teams and DMs, unless I am confusing it with something else. I get those early Gen Cons mixed up sometimes. I think it might have been the first I attended.


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:50 pm 
 

i own the master copy of the a-series (a1 1st rnd, a2 semi-final, a3 final, no a4) that was run as the ad&d open at Gencon XIII in 1980. but i have never seen or heard of anything regarding g or d.

  


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:49 pm 
 

IIRC Paul Stormberg has copies of the G/D tourney modules.


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:20 am 
 

Thanks, Bill, that is somewhat encouraging to know.

  


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:21 am 
 

grodog wrote:IIRC Paul Stormberg has copies of the G/D tourney modules.


Allan, do you know if these were copies he made of masters that were auctioned off?  Or are we talking copies in the sense of the actual physical items used at the tourney/s?

  

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:10 pm 
 

stratochamp wrote:i own the master copy of the a-series (a1 1st rnd, a2 semi-final, a3 final, no a4) that was run as the ad&d open at Gencon XIII in 1980. but i have never seen or heard of anything regarding g or d.


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That is just really, really awesome.


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:31 pm 
 

bbarsh wrote:That is just really, really awesome.

And I had to practically beat him up to get him to start buying artifacts instead of just printed products. :/

  


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:33 pm 
 

when people stop by house to see "the wall" that's one of the things i make sure to show people. included is a 3-page document titled "how a fireball works" showing just how many squares at various points in the dungeon that a fireball will encompass.

it was pulled out of the tsr vaults for the gencon auction circa 1990 and approved for sale by the tsr legal dept. with the proceeds going to charity. frank mentzer auctioned it off and i won it for $210.

  

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:37 pm 
 

stratochamp wrote:frank mentzer auctioned it off and i won it for $210.

It would probably fetch close to ten times that at auction nowadays.

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:42 pm 
 

Frank is 100% correct. the auction started and when the bidding got to about $150, there was one bidder left, Frank mentioned how awesome an item this was as he was staring at me. Somebody else jumped in and the bidding went to $190, when one of them dropped out. Frank, staring +3 daggers at me, telling us that we would be fools not to bid, convinced me to dive into the realm of original manuscripts and i (somewhat reluctantly) put my arm up. when the other guy dropped out at $210, and over the claps of the assembled, Frank said, (I'm paraphrasing) Sold to the person who should have been bidding all along! so chastened, i have been buying pre-production items since. Thanks Frank! :-)

  


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:59 pm 
 

bombadil wrote:Allan, do you know if these were copies he made of masters that were auctioned off?  Or are we talking copies in the sense of the actual physical items used at the tourney/s?


I don't know whether Paul has master copies from the G/D tourneys, or copies made and played with/used to run the tourneys.  My guess is the latter.  I haven't seen these sold before, in either version.

Not sure if that answers your Q re: copies made from auctions??


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