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Post Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:07 am 
 

Available in ebook form from Lulu at zero charge, our recentmost issue (#38) has reviews of Designers & Dragons, Dungeonslayers 4th edition, La Marca Dell'Est (a Spanish retro clone recently released in Italy and with a lot of Classic D&D feel), Monsters! Monsters! and Maelstrom. We wrap things with an obituary of Jean Wells, fondly remembered in Italy for her Palace of the Silver Princess Classic D&D module.

You can download the magazine (note: Italian text!) here:

http://www.lulu.com/product/ebook/dm-ma ... f/center/1

  

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:14 am 
 

Can't read Italian, but it looks like a great magazine. Are the earlier back issues available in PDF? I'm gonna download the ones that are on Lulu, and online translate the odd article that catches my eye.


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Post Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:32 am 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:Can't read Italian, but it looks like a great magazine. Are the earlier back issues available in PDF? I'm gonna download the ones that are on Lulu, and online translate the odd article that catches my eye.


i have all the issues... just PM and lets find a way to transfer them to you!
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Post Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:38 am 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:Can't read Italian, but it looks like a great magazine. Are the earlier back issues available in PDF? I'm gonna download the ones that are on Lulu, and online translate the odd article that catches my eye.


Of course  8) you can download all the issues since (if I recall correctly) # 19 onward.

  

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Post Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:55 am 
 

Yep. Downloaded them all from #19. They're great to flick through, even if I can't yet read them.


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Post Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:16 am 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:Yep. Downloaded them all from #19. They're great to flick through, even if I can't yet read them.


Thanks  :D  8)

  

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Post Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:19 pm 
 

They look very nice.   :D


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Post Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:19 pm 
 

Thank you for the mention (and blog link) for the Jean Wells bibliography. Maybe I'll get some Italian readers now.  :)


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Post Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:53 pm 
 

Alexander wrote:You can download the magazine (note: Italian text!) here:

http://www.lulu.com/product/ebook/dm-ma ... f/center/1


I was curious where you were getting the images from for your covers.
For instance, this one that featured Thieves World "Wings of Omen"...
http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/d ... f/center/2

That wasn't from someone's art blog post by chance?

  

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Post Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:02 am 
 

misterspock wrote:
I was curious where you were getting the images from for your covers.
For instance, this one that featured Thieves World "Wings of Omen"...
http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/d ... f/center/2

That wasn't from someone's art blog post by chance?


Usually we use the covers of the games we talk about inside (for example the Dungeonslayers one in issue #38 ), occasionally the art director uses some 'nice' drawing taken from websites (with proper credit of course) but I prefer by far using game covers.

  

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Post Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:04 am 
 

Zenopus wrote:Thank you for the mention (and blog link) for the Jean Wells bibliography. Maybe I'll get some Italian readers now.  :)


Tha would be great! 8)

  

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Post Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:06 am 
 

Alexander wrote:Usually we use the covers of the games we talk about inside (for example the Dungeonslayers one in issue #38 ), occasionally the art director uses some 'nice' drawing taken from websites (with proper credit of course) but I prefer by far using game covers.


While I think it's cool and can appreciate that you guys are doing all this effort to put together this magazine (I can even understand about 1/2 or more of it just knowing Spanish), you can't re-use someone else's copyrighted art or image(s) unless you have their express written consent, along with entirely-probable compensation and credit. And that would hold irregardless if you're charging money for the magazine/e-zine or not. Simply because something's posted on the internet doesn't make it fair game, unfortunately.

I don't know if you guys approached Larry Elmore (for instance on issue 28..I'm not sure who owns SnarfQuest)
http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/d ... f/center/5

or WotC

or even Paul Jaquays (his name at the time) for his photograph/or whomever took that photograph/owns the photograph for issue 23
http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/d ... f/center/2
(I realize there was an interview in there, but you would still have to have written permission, etc from him to use this)

but I know Walter Velez wasn't approached about using the art from issue 33.
http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/d ... f/center/2

Sorry to be a buzzkill on your guys' efforts here, but your art director or whomever can't just go onto Clyde Caldwell's, Brom's, Ruppel's, Field's, or Frank Frazetta's for that matter or any site of any artist out there to snag an image,
****AS WELL AS***** any collector's art site like this one to to snag the original painting images.
http://www.munchkinpress.com/cpg149/index.php?cat=4
That's just an example, as there are many blog posts that collectors put up, but the art/image still belongs to the original artist (unless they sold rights off). In any case, you would have to inquire and figure out who holds the copyright...and then ask permission/work out a deal.

In most cases, I'm sure these artists, companies and copyright owners won't allow free use of the images on your magazine covers to help you sell them, and they could potentially not even be interested at all even if you did offer them compensation.

I would suggest just finding an artist or a photographer and creating your own unique cover for each issue. I hope you guys keep putting together the magazine and I'm sure everyone appreciates your efforts, but you just have to go about it the right way.

  

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Post Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:02 pm 
 

So what's the difference between that and Tesco's putting a picture of a Kellogs Cornflakes box on the cover of it's magazine with an article inside on how to make crispy cakes?


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:24 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:So what's the difference between that and Tesco's putting a picture of a Kellogs Cornflakes box on the cover of it's magazine with an article inside on how to make crispy cakes?


I had to look up Tesco :)

http://www.tescomagazine.com/

If you had said "Wal-Mart" or "K-Mart" I would have known what you were referring to ... the references across the pond... :lol:

That's a good question which I don't completely know the answer to. I would assume the grocery/department stores, etc have to get permission or have some kind of blanket permission from the manufacturers/copyright holders in using photos to sell their goods. The manufacturer knows they are a grocery store/department store and understands how the image will be used.

One major difference with this is that a photograph of the novel "Wings of Omen" was not used for the cover, but a photograph of the actual painting. Take a look at the differences ...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images ... 55&s=books

http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/d ... f/center/2

Also, I'm pretty sure that photo of the painting was taken from a blog post of a member of the acaeum.

  


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:48 pm 
 

if you are dealing with Games Workshop products, you get explicit permission to use their images from their webshop, to promote their products on your webshop.

If any of you are puppet-collectors, you might remember once when the entire fleet of warhammer-based webshops went image-blank because GW revoked that right overnight.

However; I think its industry based, what the normal practice is. In the Pro Audio Business Images are used wildly with no permission given from or to anyone - its all about exposure.

  


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:34 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:Yep. Downloaded them all from #19. They're great to flick through, even if I can't yet read them.


I take it, its not much use if you cant read Italian then?  :)


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:53 pm 
 

ashmire13 wrote:I take it, its not much use if you cant read Italian then?  :)

The piccies are good, some of them of things i've never seen, and you can copy and paste into Google Translate when you want to read something that looks particularly interesting. And they're free!
If a board member has the passion to write it and then give it away for free, I'm gonna at the very least download it and take a look through. Besides, one day Adobe will translate PDF s on the fly, and I'll be able to read magazines like this in english no matter what language the author writes in. By then maybe these won't be up for download anymore.


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:58 pm 
 

misterspock wrote:you can't re-use someone else's copyrighted art or image(s) unless you have their express written consent, along with entirely-probable compensation and credit.


Based on that logic, we can't photograph items for sale on eBay (which would also make the Noble Knight thread moot, were it true). From a site for international IP law:

http://www.wipo.int/sme/en/documents/ip_photography.htm
"Taking photos to accompany a review or critique
In most countries, copyright material may be used for criticism or review. For example, if you are taking photos of cartoons for a book which reviews, critiques or analyses the works. Just like for the exception of news reporting, you will usually be required to identify the copyright work and the name of the artist.

Taking a photo of a copyright work to advertise its sale
If you photograph a painting or other artistic work for the sole purpose of advertising its sale, for example, in an auction or sale catalogue, then you will usually not need prior authorization."

  
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