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Post Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:34 am 
 

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Today marks the birthday of J. Eric Holmes (1930-2010). As a tribute I was hoping everyone could tell us why they like the Holmes Basic Set. To facilitate this I've added a new section titled "Holmes Basic Testimonials" to the Zenopus Archives website, which will link to threads (in various forums) where you can post about the Bluebook.

Tell us how you started with Holmes Basic, or remember it fondly for other reasons, or came to appreciate it later, or are using it now, or just plain like reading through it.

Why do I like the Holmes Basic set? Well, it was my first D&D set, and left an indelible impression on my psyche. But I also like it because because it's a concise edit of the original D&D invention by an enthusiastic volunteer who was both a player of the game and long-time fan of fantasy literature. It's not necessarily perfect but has a strong vibe of "this game is awesome so I want to share it with as many folks as possible, so here's an introductory version".

I could go on and on, but I'd like to hear from everyone else.


Zenopus Archives website & blog: Exploring the Underworld of Holmes Basic D&D. Holmes Ref: Reference Sheets for Holmes Basic Referees, also compatible with OD&D plus the Greyhawk supplement


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:57 am 
 

It's my favorite box set.  Funny, as I was passing by my bookshelves just the other day, one of my Holmes sets caught my eye and it occurred to me how much I enjoy looking at this box.  Something about the texture in the colors and illustration on the box gives it a depth that the other box sets (including the woodgrain and whiteys) lack.  Even after all these years, I also still enjoy just pulling out the blue Holmes book and reading through it.  It has an atmosphere that's not really the same in, for example, Men & Magic.  There is sort of an intangible quality to the Holmes set that's hard to nail down, but definitely there.

  

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:51 pm 
 

Zenopus wrote:
Tell us how you started with Holmes Basic, or remember it fondly for other reasons, or came to appreciate it later, or are using it now, or just plain like reading through it.

Why do I like the Holmes Basic set? Well, it was my first D&D set, and left an indelible impression on my psyche. But I also like it because because it's a concise edit of the original D&D invention by an enthusiastic volunteer who was both a player of the game and long-time fan of fantasy literature. It's not necessarily perfect but has a strong vibe of "this game is awesome so I want to share it with as many folks as possible, so here's an introductory version".

I could go on and on, but I'd like to hear from everyone else.


First of all, it was awesome to check out your website and see a link to my long forgotten Tower of Zenopus setting!!! Would you be interested in the completed dungeon I ran many years ago? Let me know.

Second, my first D&D experience was a Holmes box set, and a delve into B1 In Search of the Unknown (included with the version I bought).  A friend of mine from the Northeast had played D&D before in Maryland so he offered to DM.  We rolled up characters, I named my fighter Conan and  came up with an 18 STR (three sixes on three die 6)!  We equipped ourselves and went into the Halls of Quasqueton, made it as far as the room with the dead bodies, and were attacked by kobolds.  It was a disaster as everyone in the party was killed except for Conan, who finished off the last kobold, barely surviving himself. The DM was clearly flummoxed as he hadn't expected wholesale slaughter during the first encounter, so he said Conan found a plant outside the doors of Quasqueton that when applied to wounds was able to heal up the party so we could further explore the dungeon.  Anyway, I was definitely hooked.  I remember reading the Holmes Rulebook during classes in high school the entire week after we first played so I could become an expert on the rules for the next time we played.

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:26 pm 
 

I never owned the box until recently (my first set was Moldvay/Cook), but when I was about 10 a friend of mines brother was into the hobby and he owned it. Long story short his mother got some flyer at church and made him throw out his stuff. We snuck out at night after a tip-off and recovered the Holmes (we called it blue basic) rule book and a copy of eldritch wizardry. The plan was for me to hang on to it until the religious fervor died down.

Well he moved away and it stayed in my possession for about 10 more years, where it finally meet its destiny with the trash man. How it got there is a tragic story all it's own. Regardless, the art in it was some of my favorite and I fondly recall reading it over and over in class (it was the book I carried around in my backpack).

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:06 am 
 

I never played Holmes, my first set was Moldvay Basic.  I use some parts of Holmes in my current B/X campaign however.  Namely the ability for Mages to make scrolls at low level with the time and GP investment.  I do love to read through the Holmes rulebook - it has a wonderful early D&D vibe!


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:44 am 
 

Badmike wrote:
First of all, it was awesome to check out your website and see a link to my long forgotten Tower of Zenopus setting!!! Would you be interested in the completed dungeon I ran many years ago? Let me know.


Sure, I could host it on Google Docs and have it downloadable from the site. I'll send you a PM.


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:18 pm 
 

My first introduction to the Holmes set was on the playground.  The weird California kid, new that year, passed me a booklet and said "this game is cool."  The cover fell off.  I picked it up and started reading.  Already I was noticing this was quite different from a normal book.  I looked at the map, a series of rooms in a blueprint with number keys, and opened the booklet and started noting what was in each place.  I was rather puzzled to note that the caves were filled with horses, guards, an inn, a church ...
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But already I was getting interested.  "How do you play?"
"You're a wizard or a warrior, you make choices and go in."
"So it's like Choose Your Own Adventure?"
"Kinda, but cooler."
"OK."

I had some pull with the teacher and convinced her that we could use this as a 5th grade group problem solving exercise that the kids would find interesting.  The next day, strange California kid brought his Holmes box, and he ran a few encounters on the overhead with transparencies.  I was the "caller" for the class.

And that was the last time I played that a rules argument or edition war didn't break out!

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:35 pm 
 

I started with Holmes. Played the hell out of it with my elementary & junior high classmates, as well as a gaggle of younger kids on my block. We eventually moved on to the B/X sets and rules, and then my older brother bought the DMG and PHB and that was pretty much the end of my Holmes days.

It is, without a doubt, my favorite set. Hands down, no questions asked.

My box is long gone, but my B1 and Blue Book live on. I used colored markers to neatly color in most of the illustrations in my Blue Book. It is probably the one piece of my collection that holds the most sentimental value to me.


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:48 pm 
 

TollHouseGolem wrote:I used colored markers to neatly color in most of the illustrations in my Blue Book. It is probably the one piece of my collection that holds the most sentimental value to me.


I wish you would post an example of that. One of the things I love most about collecting comes from not even close to NM copies of rule books and modules that show a slice of the players who owned and obviously loved their copies BITD.

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:15 pm 
 

Zach,

Ask and you shall receive! I took some pics tonight and I'll get them posted later tonight or tomorrow.

...and here they are! Enjoy.

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I always wanted to encounter this guy in a game but never did.

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Jaundiced minotaur battling with albino fighter.

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Probably my fav in the book - Tom Wham's green gnolls!

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Every treasure table needs a magic sword, no?


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Post Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:26 pm 
 

TollHouseGolem wrote:Zach,

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Every treasure table needs a magic sword, no?


One bit of trivia is that this sword is also by Tom Wham (per Tom, according to Rhuvein of Dragonsfoot).


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Post Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:47 pm 
 

TollHouseGolem wrote:Zach,

Ask and you shall receive! I took some pics tonight and I'll get them posted later tonight or tomorrow.

...and here they are! Enjoy. Sorry about the middle two - not sure why they're showing up


Thanks for posting those. They are actually quite cool :) I have no artistic ability so I never wrote in any of my books, except I had a teacher who was opposed to the mermaid picture in the DMG by Darlene (I suspect he was anti-exposed breast) so in order to bring it to class again I had to cover the offending photo in magic marker.

Thanks again for taking the time.

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:54 am 
 

*bump for 2013*

Please share if you haven't before or want to say it again! Thanks to everyone who contributed last year.

It's also up on the blog (and other sites) if you prefer to post there.


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Post Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 2:11 pm 
 

Zenopus wrote:
Badmike wrote:
First of all, it was awesome to check out your website and see a link to my long forgotten Tower of Zenopus setting!!! Would you be interested in the completed dungeon I ran many years ago? Let me know.


Sure, I could host it on Google Docs and have it downloadable from the site. I'll send you a PM.


Did that ever happen? :)


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Post Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 2:51 pm 
 

No (not yet at least). Looking back, I sent Mike a PM last year around this time, but didn't hear back. Offer is still open if he is interested.


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Post Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 3:23 pm 
 

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:02 am 
 

In the first two printings of the UK edition, both Sutherland and Wham's artworks were replaced by Fangorn and John Blanche did the cover. Trampier's artwork was untouched.

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:39 am 
 

thingvol wrote:In the first two printings of the UK edition, both Sutherland and Wham's artworks were replaced by Fangorn and John Blanche did the cover. Trampier's artwork was untouched.

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