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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:49 am

Member id pahrumpauction 99.8 Seller Rating - I was interested in this

The World of Synnibarr Raven McCracken Mike Grell 500 Pages 125 Illustrations (130645096382) and he cancelled the bid and auction yesterday with out warning or explanation. When I asked why, here is the response

We forgot to mention it was autographed by Raven, will be relisted.

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:45 am

What's wrong with that? He has the right to cancel his listing if he made a mistake. He has a good rating. Some idiot probably screwed up his 100% rating. There are a lot of them on Ebay. The seller has very few rights on Ebay.

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:50 am

Since he had to end it, there had to be some bids... or at least one.
As you can change your listings all day long (if more than 24 hours to the end) without obvious knowledge to watchers if no bids have been posted.

But unless the listing was near the end and had gobs of bids, I also see nothing wrong with ending a listing that is not correct.
In fact, the seller SHOULD end it as correct data in the listing is VERY important to all of us.

As a bonus, adding in the data that the item includes authors signature adds value for the seller and probably attracts more bidders.

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:01 am

Can't you just add to the description, even after bids have been placed?

I'm having difficulty imagining that Raven McCracken's signature would increase the value by much, in any case :lol:

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:18 am

MetamorphosisSigma wrote:Can't you just add to the description, even after bids have been placed?

I'm having difficulty imagining that Raven McCracken's signature would increase the value by much, in any case .

Correct on both counts. The seller could have added the information even after someone had bid on it, they just cant update the original description. And Raven's signature on this book is negligible IMHFO.

And its been relisted:
** expired/removed eBay auction **

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:50 am

Kingofpain89 wrote:
Correct on both counts. The seller could have added the information even after someone had bid on it, they just cant update the original description. And Raven's signature on this book is negligible IMHFO.

And its been relisted:
** expired/removed eBay auction **

I suppose I should pick up a copy of this someday, if only because the consensus seems to be that it has the dubious distinction of being the worst RPG ever written.

I had never seen the insides of the book before. Some of those illustrations are actually half decent

. Anyone know who did them?

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:11 am

I am pretty sure that you cannot change or add anything within 24 hours of the auction close. Not sure if that was the case here, but that was a policy at one time.

And I could've bought these damn modules off the 1$ rack!!!

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:12 am

MetamorphosisSigma wrote:
I suppose I should pick up a copy of this someday, if only because the consensus seems to be that it has the dubious distinction of being the worst RPG ever written.

It's probably in the bottom five, but no, it's not the worst.

This is the worst: http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/14/14567.phtml

Ironically, it's one of the most entertaining reviews ever.

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:31 am

TheHistorian wrote:
It's probably in the bottom five, but no, it's not the worst.

This is the worst: http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/14/14567.phtml

Ironically, it's one of the most entertaining reviews ever.

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:44 am

I...um..stand corrected.

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:29 pm

TheHistorian wrote:It's probably in the bottom five, but no, it's not the worst.

But it was only ever a PDF so I don't think it really counts. Its not like the authors were backing a huge print run and investing money into the product.

Synnibar was a serious attempt to get the system out there - 2 printings, etc.

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:58 pm

TheHistorian wrote:
It's probably in the bottom five, but no, it's not the worst.

This is the worst: http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/14/14567.phtml

Ironically, it's one of the most entertaining reviews ever.

I've always thought FATAL was a huge inside joke. Kind of like if the guys from GWAR insisted they were as talented and culturally significant to music as The Beatles, Rolling Stones and Elvis Presley.

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:16 pm

Mars wrote:But it was only ever a PDF so I don't think it really counts. Its not like the authors were backing a huge print run and investing money into the product.

If it were 10 pages long, I might agree with you. But it's around 1000. That's a pretty serious effort. That it was atrocious, and thus unsaleable doesn't reduce it to non-existence (unfortunately).

There are certainly other pdf only games and gaming items. The change in format doesn't make them any less valid.

Actually, on looking a little further, it looks like it may have actually been printed and self-distributed. The horror, the horror...

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:14 pm

TheHistorian wrote:
It's probably in the bottom five, but no, it's not the worst.

This is the worst: http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/14/14567.phtml

Ironically, it's one of the most entertaining reviews ever.

The game is probably bad, but the review was offensive in itself.

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:52 pm

Wow! That review is longer than many graduate theses. And, in addition to offensive, it is too boring to read.

When I started scrolling toward the bottom just to see look at the length of the rambling rant.

I found...

"Of course, what Jason fails to consider is that for a character to acquire a Urination skill with a Skill Modifier of 100, the character must, on average, have achieved 20 levels, which most never will."

Oh my. I suppose I am doing it right, but it never crossed my mind that there might be that many skill levels beyond hitting the porcelain.

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:25 pm

Pipswich wrote:Oh my. I suppose I am doing it right, but it never crossed my mind that there might be that many skill levels beyond hitting the porcelain.

Being able to write ones name in the snow must be at least a few levels above the porcelain hitting skill :lol:

IMHO the review is worse than the RPG. I couldn't read past the first section of the review. At least with the RPG I had a good laugh at the images ...

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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:12 am

The seller has very few rights on eBay

Ever so true. Although from personal experience: eBay sellers can/do win in PayPal disputes. One of the worst aspects of eBay selling is getting harassed through the eBay message system.

On several issues, for a seller to resolve something with eBay, it may require actually calling eBay! Not that using the phone is a waste - yet eBay is virtually totally web-based.

It appears public knowledge that Amazon selling is worse in the fact that a seller has to have a refund policy. Discounted jackhammers aren't plentiful.

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