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Post Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:20 am 
 

Hey there everyone-  I am working on learning to fairly and honestly grade the condition of collectibles.  In that regard, I will likely have several questions as I progress.  I am currently working on grading a huge lot of Dragon and Dungeon magazines.  My first two question follow:



1)  If a magazine is unread with all attachements/enclosures including subscription soliciations, etc., attached, but has a very tiny tear at the bottom or top of the spine,how would you grade it?  This seems to be the case occasionally, even with some of them mags I took straight from sealed TSR shipping boxes myself.  



2)  Same question for a mag that has been lightly read, but has a larger spine split from the bottom of the mag to about a 1/2 inch below the first staple.  I got it on ebay.  It is a very nice copy, but not as pristine as the stuff I got from the distributor boxes.  



I have read the grading conventions on this site and have found them very helpful.  That said, any advice you have would be greatly appreciated.  I want to learn to grade items in a very fair manner.  Respectfully submitted.  DD.Collector.

  

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:23 am 
 

fwiw, I don't grade. I describe (and show pix).

  


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Post Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:27 am 
 

A couple of ways to do this:
a) describe the overall condition, plus individual flaws.
b) allow the flaws to be the overriding measure, so that a magazine with a tear in the cover is good/fair/poor, even if it's otherwise NM.

There is constant back-&-forth bickering over relative merits of a) & b).

  

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:45 am 
 

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Staple rust is a really big deal.
Make sure to indicate any occurrences, no matter how trivial.
It looks bad and degrades the value, both cash and aesthetic.


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Post Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:47 pm 
 

I'm with Frank on this. I just use pics and as accurate a description as I can manage, which is my preferred method for EBay. Where it's not practical for me to do this, like post sites (it's a royal PIA for me to upload to my ISP), I'll get as close to the Acaeum's as I can.

  

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:06 pm 
 

I use the Acaeum grading system, post pics, and issue a full coroner's report.  Mention any creases, corner bumps, spinewear, shelfwear, staple rust, smell, etc.  Buyers don't like surprises, unless they are pleasant ones.

If you grade slightly below your true estimation, you'll never feel bad when you ship off that package.


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Post Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:15 am 
 

I had an argument once with a booksller who took offense to the grading conventions I used for rpg books... apparently in the used book world 'fine' means super nice where I would mostly consider 'fine' to be just pretty nice... I have since taken to avoiding words like fine/mint/good, and instead will use a description and non-formal adjectives... anything more than a five-dollar item or a clearly marked 'play' copy deserves a couple sentences to describe it.  I do use the Acaeum codes on my spreadsheets to track things, but do not presume a buyer would necesssarily agree.


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Post Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:02 am 
 

ExTSR wrote:fwiw, I don't grade. I describe (and show pix).


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Post Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:51 am 
 

Thanks to everyone for the advice.  I will put Acaeum grades on my tracking spreadsheet but stick to pics and a good description of flaws for postings.  Respectfully, DD.Collector

  

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Post Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:32 pm 
 

davidc wrote:I had an argument once with a booksller who took offense to the grading conventions I used for rpg books... apparently in the used book world 'fine' means super nice where I would mostly consider 'fine' to be just pretty nice...


I don't take "offense" to the RPG grading system, but the standard book grading convention has been around a whole lot longer, and I definitely understand why booksellers/buyers find the Acaeum scheme offputting. It uses some of the same terms (fine, VG, good), but they mean totally different things. If I bought a fiction book (and didn't know about the grading differences) from an RPGer described as "Fine", and received something in the condition pictured in the Acaeum example of "fine" I'd be pissed off. It's like expecting NM and getting VGC.

So I agree, there's no substitute for pictures and exhaustive descriptions, to avoid any possible confusion.


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Post Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:06 pm 
 

davidc wrote:I had an argument once with a booksller who took offense to the grading conventions I used for rpg books... apparently in the used book world 'fine' means super nice where I would mostly consider 'fine' to be just pretty nice... I have since taken to avoiding words like fine/mint/good, and instead will use a description and non-formal adjectives... anything more than a five-dollar item or a clearly marked 'play' copy deserves a couple sentences to describe it.  I do use the Acaeum codes on my spreadsheets to track things, but do not presume a buyer would necesssarily agree.


Geez, if he thought your system or the Acaeum system of grading was harsh, try grading comic books.  The comic book system is more involved and stricter still.  Their very fine would be near mint for many of us and a very good comic would be a fine module.   

Of course, that's my opinion, and grading among comic book sellers on eBay is extremely varied.  I used to sell comic books, and I am pleased to say I never had a buyer who was dis-satisfied with my grading.   8)


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Post Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:29 pm 
 

Maybe 'argument' was a poor word choice on my part, might have been more like an alternate point of view that warranted further discussion :)  It was all good because we were dealing face to face so the item was right there... still if one has to define the grade scale before applying a grade, might as well just use a few words to describe the item.

I'm not familiar with the scale used on those plastic cases for comics, seems like there might be a lot of hair splitting when grading is scaled by tenths.


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