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Post Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:07 pm 
 

Wasn't there a thread with a list of shrinkwrap prices in here somewhere? I couldn't find it and was looking for some eBay past prices on shrink. Can somebody resurrect it for me? Much appreciated.

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:24 pm 
 

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:39 pm 
 

Zenfinite wrote:Wasn't there a thread with a list of shrinkwrap prices in here somewhere? I couldn't find it and was looking for some eBay past prices on shrink. Can somebody resurrect it for me? Much appreciated.

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It is way out of date. Best thing is to check ebay and the recent selling history.

There is also a difference in prices due to condition, shipping methods and selling methods. Auction versus Buy it Now are usually very different.


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:09 pm 
 

Shrinkwrapped prices are very volatile.

Part of that volatility is because many auctions don't state - explicitly - that the item is shrinkwrapped. So the number of bidders will vary wildly. You can find shrink items using all kinds of different search terms - shrink, sealed, new, factory wrap, cellophane, etc. There are easily more than a dozen permutations. Also, some consumers don't care too much, if at all, about the state of the shrink, so long as it's impossible for the book to have been opened. Again, this will cause prices to vary wildly.

A good rule of thumb is $15 for a common book (some 1E, many 2E); $30 for an uncommon; $50+ for something unusual (like a GAZ8, WGR6, etc), and $100+ for something very rare (like a DL11 in shrink, 10th anniversary sets, etc). According to my taste, $300 for a TOEE seems like a pretty good deal, actually, but then I am one of the bigger buyers in shrink.

Note that there is often an inverse relationship between common out of shrink, and common in shrink. For EX. In my experience it's easier to find a CM9 in shrink, than a B3 in shrink. This is why a simple +50% rule is rarely accurate [although I have personally benefited greatly by others following it].

For collectors, my advice is to bid what you think the item is worth to you. You're the one who will be enjoying it. The prices at Acaeum are informative, not meant to dictate the value of the books.

On a side note: For me, an opened version of OB3 is as valuable or more valuable than a shrinked copy, in a similar condition. A big reason for the value of the item is its unusual artwork on the inside and the rest of the differences/errors in content. I suppose you can get the pdf, but that doesn't amount to the same thing, imo. I would say also that most copies of OB3 are shrinked, so the "rarity" if anything goes in the other direction. [Disclaimer: my OB3 is opened]

  

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:19 pm 
 

JasonZavoda wrote:It is way out of date. Best thing is to check ebay and the recent selling history.


The list is a good benchmark and about the most upto date listing out there.  Checking Ebay BIN prices is as useless as checking Amazon prices - mostly you find resellers who are trying sucker in some noob buyer at an inflated price.  Checking recent history is generally useless too since it only goes back 15 days and most of these items have not been sold in shrink during that period.

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:52 pm 
 

Sea-to-sky-games wrote:Shrinkwrapped prices are very volatile.

Part of that volatility is because many auctions don't state - explicitly - that the item is shrinkwrapped. So the number of bidders will vary wildly. You can find shrink items using all kinds of different search terms - shrink, sealed, new, factory wrap, cellophane, etc. There are easily more than a dozen permutations. Also, some consumers don't care too much, if at all, about the state of the shrink, so long as it's impossible for the book to have been opened. Again, this will cause prices to vary wildly.

A good rule of thumb is $15 for a common book (some 1E, many 2E); $30 for an uncommon; $50+ for something unusual (like a GAZ8, WGR6, etc), and $100+ for something very rare (like a DL11 in shrink, 10th anniversary sets, etc). According to my taste, $300 for a TOEE seems like a pretty good deal, actually, but then I am one of the bigger buyers in shrink.

Note that there is often an inverse relationship between common out of shrink, and common in shrink. For EX. In my experience it's easier to find a CM9 in shrink, than a B3 in shrink. This is why a simple +50% rule is rarely accurate [although I have personally benefited greatly by others following it].

For collectors, my advice is to bid what you think the item is worth to you. You're the one who will be enjoying it. The prices at Acaeum are informative, not meant to dictate the value of the books.

On a side note: For me, an opened version of OB3 is as valuable or more valuable than a shrinked copy, in a similar condition. A big reason for the value of the item is its unusual artwork on the inside and the rest of the differences/errors in content. I suppose you can get the pdf, but that doesn't amount to the same thing, imo. I would say also that most copies of OB3 are shrinked, so the "rarity" if anything goes in the other direction. [Disclaimer: my OB3 is opened]


I'd agree with most of this.  Key words "vary wildly".

The linked post is out of date, but to be honest, I don't think I've seen anyone share out thier own running tally of values.

I paid $80 for both my SW TOEEs.  Conversley, I think I spent $175 on my GDQ1-7.  But I've been consistently outbid on B1-9 at $120+.  Oh, and I found a SW RPGA1 for $20.  "Varies wildly".

Like Sea said, bid what it's worth to you.

  


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:24 pm 
 

I didn't think it was that long ago. Guess that's why I didn't see it looking back through the topics. I just wanted the list to use as a baseline, I think it's a good thread to have around, give a ballpark idea on some stuff. Ebay recent selling history only goes back what, a couple months? Thanks for finding it for me I appreciate it.

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:54 am 
 

As one person completely addicted to SW, I think they are very valuable!

  

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:42 am 
 

Hi everyone




I spent a lot of time in the past in listing many sealed-shrinkwrapped AD&D/D&D TSR items as seen in the referenced thread. I'm happy to read that it was interesting for some collectors here. Thanks to members who gave me information. Thanks also to those who encouraged me to continue. However having the impression that this was not so interesting and given the time that it took, I ended up the update. Now I do not list ending prices systematically, but I still note some prices for some of them.


I agree with the fact that prices are very variable, it depends on many factors :  


- is the listing well visible?


for example, this T1-4, http://www.ebay.com/itm/itm/220903715720, even if it is a later print, was sold at a rather "low" price in comparison to previous I saw at around $300 IIRC. Surely the lack of D&D / TSR words in the title.


- if there is a big sale at the same moment, for example GG collection, then many collectors focus on this sale and some SW items can end at a rather low price.


- a few collectors can bid high to get a SW item, even if the item is not so rare : for example, this DQ1 in SW http://www.ebay.com/itm/170776089174 has already a bid on it (starting price $30), but it is quite easy to find one sealed for less than $15.


- shipping destinations is also an important factor: for such items, collectors are from all around the world: items only shipped to US (unfortunately for us non american people, still many) end generally at lower prices than those shipped worldwide. Apart from USA, I've noticed at least one important SW buyer in Canada, and one in Australia. When they bid, price can go VERY high. I count also as one sometimes, but more rarely now.


I think the list remains a good base : it is a good indication about the rarity of an item in this condition.


I agree with Mark about the fact that a few reseller try to get at the lowest price such items in order to resale them immediately but most of the time on a BIN auction. Prices shown in the thread are from auctions, IIRC buy it now sales are not included in it.


Finally, a few prices noted during last year for rather rare SW modules


T1-4: 330, 286, 125


S1-4: 147


B1-9: 214




A last note; prices from the thread are not from "special" sales such as Collector's Trove. Those auctions are too specific and prices out of range most of the time.


Good finds to all SW collectors!  :D

  


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Post Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:58 pm 
 

dwarf wrote:- a few collectors can bid high to get a SW item, even if the item is not so rare : for example, this DQ1 in SW  
** expired/removed eBay auction **
has already a bid on it (starting price $30), but it is quite easy to find one sealed for less than $15.


This person also is willing to pay $30 for Tantras, which probably about double. They probably need these to round out their collection.

  
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