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Post Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:43 am 
 

Is there any definitive information about what the reference sheets looked like that were included with each printing of the original boxed sets?

Among the boxed sets that I own, there are different reference sheets sets and layouts for 2nd/3rd, 4th, and 5th/6th printings.  Do the 1st printing sheets differ from other printings?  Are there other variants to the later printings?

This might also be useful information to document in the section of the site along with the OD&D boxed set printings.

(I will provide scans of mine if desired.)

  


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Post Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 11:09 pm 
 

Serian wrote:(I will provide scans of mine if desired.)


Scans are always desired! :D


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 3:54 am 
 

Good question! I have already posted it a couple of times and actually no one even here at the acaeum is able to provide me with the right info!

I have several whiteys and i am not sure if the ref sheets are complete... only two of them are matching...

The only reccomendation is trying to get in touch with a collector who owns the boxes from the original purchase and ask him... i have in mind mr.Stratochamp...

No one else here will reply with sound and precise replies.

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 6:00 am 
 

grodog wrote:
Scans are always desired! :D


For those interested, I have a zip with the scans of the reference sheets from my OD&D boxed sets here:

http://tellaerad.net/Citadel/refsheets.zip  (This will be removed in a couple of days, so get it quick if you are interested.)

In the sets that I own, the ref sheets are the same in the 2nd and 3rd printings, and include a seperate 5.5x8.5 corrections sheet; in the 4th printing, the corrections sheet is part of the reference sheets, and in the 5th and 6th printings, the reference sheets have a "title page" and no correction sheet included.

  

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 12:26 pm 
 

Serian wrote:In the sets that I own, the ref sheets are the same in the 2nd and 3rd printings, and include a seperate 5.5x8.5 corrections sheet; in the 4th printing, the corrections sheet is part of the reference sheets, and in the 5th and 6th printings, the reference sheets have a "title page" and no correction sheet included.

*nods* Per viewtopic.php?p=11171#11171

(and the same for the 7th *jk*)


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:25 pm 
 

Serian wrote:
For those interested, I have a zip with the scans of the reference sheets from my OD&D boxed sets here:

http://tellaerad.net/Citadel/refsheets.zip  (This will be removed in a couple of days, so get it quick if you are interested.)

In the sets that I own, the ref sheets are the same in the 2nd and 3rd printings, and include a seperate 5.5x8.5 corrections sheet; in the 4th printing, the corrections sheet is part of the reference sheets, and in the 5th and 6th printings, the reference sheets have a "title page" and no correction sheet included.


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I'd always assumed I'd run across a copy one day.
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So... THANK YOU!

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:12 am 
 

Serian wrote:
For those interested, I have a zip with the scans of the reference sheets from my OD&D boxed sets here:

http://tellaerad.net/Citadel/refsheets.zip  (This will be removed in a couple of days, so get it quick if you are interested.)

In the sets that I own, the ref sheets are the same in the 2nd and 3rd printings, and include a seperate 5.5x8.5 corrections sheet; in the 4th printing, the corrections sheet is part of the reference sheets, and in the 5th and 6th printings, the reference sheets have a "title page" and no correction sheet included.


Thank you for loading those sheets to your web page for download.
I appreciate the trouble and effort you took to do this.


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Post Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:25 am 
 

Hi Serian, thanks for both the file and the info! This will help me a lot as well!
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Post Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:11 pm 
 

You are welcome.  I am glad to be able to help out fellow collectors if I can.

Does anyone have info or a scan of the 1st printing reference sheets? (Are they the same as some other printing's perhaps?) These seem to be the only ones that are lacking from our collective info.

  

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:36 pm 
 

Serian wrote:You are welcome.  I am glad to be able to help out fellow collectors if I can.

Does anyone have info or a scan of the 1st printing reference sheets? (Are they the same as some other printing's perhaps?) These seem to be the only ones that are lacking from our collective info.


I compared the ref sheets in the zip file to the ref sheets in my first print, and, while I did not compare every line, they appear to be identical.


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:43 pm 
 

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I compared the ref sheets in the zip file to the ref sheets in my first print, and, while I did not compare every line, they appear to be identical.


Why don't you go ahead and send me your 1st print and I'll do a thorough line-by-line crosswalk ;-)


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:15 pm 
 

Bracton wrote:
I compared the ref sheets in the zip file to the ref sheets in my first print, and, while I did not compare every line, they appear to be identical.


Well, there were three different ref sheets sets in that zip, so ... I guess the next question is which one is it identical to?

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:25 pm 
 

Serian wrote:
Well, there were three different ref sheets sets in that zip, so ... I guess the next question is which one is it identical to?

:cyclopsani:


Sorry.  It's the same as the second and third printing sets, where the correction sheet is separate.


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:30 pm 
 

Keith the Thief wrote:
Why don't you go ahead and send me your 1st print and I'll do a thorough line-by-line crosswalk ;-)


I don't allow my box sets outside the yard yet, much less cross the street through a crosswalk. I'm just the overprotective type, I guess.


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:43 pm 
 

Bracton wrote:
I don't allow my box sets outside the yard yet, much less cross the street through a crosswalk. I'm just the overprotective type, I guess.


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Post Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:21 pm 
 

Keep this in mind: we did not care if they mixed or matched when we assembled them. Sometime in late '76 or early '77, we came upon a whole box (almost 500 sets) of the originals. We put them in the next nearly 500 sets we collated. It was just product, man. Just product...


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Post Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:33 pm 
 

Kaskoid wrote:Keep this in mind: we did not care if they mixed or matched when we assembled them. Sometime in late '76 or early '77, we came upon a whole box (almost 500 sets) of the originals. We put them in the next nearly 500 sets we collated. It was just product, man. Just product...


Thank you...
KNEW I had seen early prints of the Ref Sheets in later box sets.


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Post Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:41 pm 
 

Gnat the Beggar wrote:
Thank you...
KNEW I had seen early prints of the Ref Sheets in later box sets.


Box sets.
Plural.
I've seen one box set in my entire life 8O

Not that I'm jealous or anything ...


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