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Post Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:21 pm 
 

I have a collecting question that's a little odd, which should come as no surprise to any of you ....

During the time period between the release of the 1E MM --  but prior to the release of the 1E PHB -- how the hell did people learn to play D&D?

The original three booklets don't tell you.
And GH, BM and EW don't really help.
But in EW they talk about "proliferation" of rules sets.

Soooo, I'm wondering if there's something out there I've missed.
Like maybe a compilation of articles from The Dragon?
Or some 3rd party rule book or something?

I dunno.  Do I make any sense?
Nah, don't answer that.

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:02 pm 
 

Keith the Thief wrote:I have a collecting question that's a little odd, which should come as no surprise to any of you ....

During the time period between the release of the 1E MM --  but prior to the release of the 1E PHB -- how the hell did people learn to play D&D?

The original three booklets don't tell you.
And GH, BM and EW don't really help.
But in EW they talk about "proliferation" of rules sets.

Soooo, I'm wondering if there's something out there I've missed.
Like maybe a compilation of articles from The Dragon?
Or some 3rd party rule book or something?

I dunno.  Do I make any sense?
Nah, don't answer that.

~Keith


They either learned from players who were already playing, just like the early days, or else they used the 1977 Holmes basic set, which was released earlier in 1977 than the 1E MM!

  

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:47 pm 
 

Yeah, I began with a couple of buds and the Holmes edition. We considered the MM an expansion at the time until the DMG really (or was it the DM Screen?), since that had the combat tables. We had to extrapolate past level 3 prior to that... which, considering our ages at the time, was a trip.  :wink:

Really, we kinda played Holmes with AD&D bits increasingly brought in.

  

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:01 pm 
 

Serian wrote:
They either learned from players who were already playing, just like the early days, or else they used the 1977 Holmes basic set, which was released earlier in 1977 than the 1E MM!


Oh, I didn't know that.  interesting.
I guess that's why everybody says the 1977 Holmes set?
*head-desk*
That would explain a lot right there.
Plus the word of mouth thing.


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:02 pm 
 

SimperingToad wrote:Yeah, I began with a couple of buds and the Holmes edition. We considered the MM an expansion at the time until the DMG really (or was it the DM Screen?), since that had the combat tables. We had to extrapolate past level 3 prior to that... which, considering our ages at the time, was a trip.  :wink:

Really, we kinda played Holmes with AD&D bits increasingly brought in.


Not having combat tables drove us freakin' bananas.  
We extrapolated from Metamorphosis Alpha.
How's that for a weird mix?!


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:33 pm 
 

I vaguely recall some PHB/DMG info being previewed in Dragon, but I'm not sure.


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:06 am 
 

Keith, you might be interested in this discussion of D&D during the time period between the last OD&D supplement and the AD&D PHB:
"The Lost Edition"

As mentioned there, The DMG preview with combat tables was from issue #22 (Feb 1979). Also printed in White Dwarf #13 (Jun/July '79).


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:56 am 
 

Zenopus wrote:Also printed in White Dwarf #13 (Jun/July '79).


wow i remember reading that! i think it was around that time that our group really started to get interested in all this D&D stuff.

cool! good call zeno :)


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:37 am 
 

Zenopus wrote:Keith, you might be interested in this discussion of D&D during the time period between the last OD&D supplement and the AD&D PHB:
"The Lost Edition"

As mentioned there, The DMG preview with combat tables was from issue #22 (Feb 1979). Also printed in White Dwarf #13 (Jun/July '79).


Yes!  Very interested, indeed.

This era of the game has always fascinated me the most.

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