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Post Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:03 am 
 

June 14, 2011

Splinters 7 and 8 got lost in the printer process, and are going to be delayed a bit. Don't panic, its all set now, just a week or two delay.

MOST IMPORTANT!!! Tome of Horrors Complete is only for sale for 16 more days. I will only print this monster once, so order now, to get this tremendous piece of RPG history. This will be the LARGEST monster book ever made to date, weighing in at over 800 pages, and once its gone, its gone. I am pretty sure you could resell it on Ebay in 2 years for much more than it costs (not that you would want to), but since I have to arange printing, I am cutting it off as soon as it goes to press (estimated as the first week in July), and I am not printing extras. To reiterate:

Never before have all three volumes been updated to the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game in their entirety and released as a single, hardbound tome. Monsters from the aberrant to the yellow musk zombie appear in this book, and everything in between—that's over 700 monsters. But that's not all; the appendices bring just as much to the table from templates to hazards to a treatise on poison variations in nearly 50 types of venomous snakes. There are also new feats, planes of existence, strange beings beyond mortal ken, and plenty of charts dividing the compiled monsters by CR, type, and terrain.

But it's more than just that, because the entire compilation has also been updated to the Swords & Wizardry rules for release as another version of the volume. And in this version, the space freed up by the smaller stat blocks is filled by sample monster lairs and encounters with the hundreds of different monster types featured in the tome. Never before has this massive selection of monsters been updated and brought with these resources all together in one place for use in your own game. And before any Pathfinder players cry foul over the monster lair additions in the Swords & Wizardry version of The Tome of Horrors Complete, this lair information will be available as a free download at the Frog God Games website talesofthefroggod.com for you to use as well.

So you've got the monsters—both from the original edition of the game and new,—the templates, the multiple appendices on rules, planes, and the n'gathau, and a truckload of sample encounters and lairs to throw at your players, all together in one easy-to-use book. That's why we call it The Tome of Horrors Complete!

The Tome of Horrors Complete sample lairs will be included in the Swords and Wizardry volume and as a free download for the Pathfinder volume! This will be comprised of hex-style lairs by a writing team led by John Stater!





Order now at http://www.talesofthefroggod.com/index. ... of-horrors



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Post Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:10 am 
 

1000 pages?? wow thats a big monster book


thanks, realmaster.

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Post Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:05 am 
 

All the better to eat you with, realmaster.  :twisted:


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Post Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:22 am 
 

Too good to be true, I suspect a Mimic!


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Post Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:36 pm 
 

Damn it! I thought this was a thread about the module.

I want my click back. I don't see what this has to do with TSR collecting. Why are so many ads for non-TSR stuff creeping in here. There is a non-TSR forum maybe use it?


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Post Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:48 am 
 

clangador wrote:Damn it! I thought this was a thread about the module.

I want my click back. I don't see what this has to do with TSR collecting. Why are so many ads for non-TSR stuff creeping in here? There is a non-TSR forum maybe use it?


Agree; how is this NOT the Wrong place for this product advertisement thread?
Seems to me that advertisements for products SHOULD be on the Classified ads board.
And this is not the first one of late... by a long shot.

FWIW: I think it was a good idea to produce 2 versions. S&W and Pathfinder
Nice marketing scheme (IMO).
$100 for 1000 pages of Monsters?
Seems like a decent price for so much data, but I am not interested at all.


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Post Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:19 am 
 

FWIW I don't use any other forums other than Acaeum and have generally been very happy to see anouncements of great stuff, especially when linked to 1e AD&D like most of the items promoted here.

Is it not possible to change the Classified thread so that replies are possible?  This would allow for Q&A and updates without the need for new topics there.  

I agree this should be in Classifieds as with many of these promotions, but would like to see an opportunity to discuss as well.

  

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Post Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:36 am 
 

jonjhargreaves wrote:FWIW I don't use any other forums other than Acaeum and have generally been very happy to see anouncements of great stuff, especially when linked to 1e AD&D like most of the items promoted here.

Is it not possible to change the Classified thread so that replies are possible?  This would allow for Q&A and updates without the need for new topics there.  

I agree this should be in Classifieds as with many of these promotions, but would like to see an opportunity to discuss as well.


If you want to discuss it, there is already at least one thread for it in the Non-TSR section:

viewtopic.php?t=10884&highlight=tome+horrors

Not sure why people dont use it instead of creating a new one.

As for why the Classifieds threads arent open to replies, think about the person that comes here once a month (or more) and does nothing else than post their overpriced, common as hell Ebay auctions.  By opening up Classifieds to replies, you give a lot of people here free reign to clutter the threads up even more by retaliating against the poster.

I believe the Classifieds section was open to replies way back when but Foul took that option away.  Possibly for the reason I mentioned.  What would be even better is if the option existed for the person creating the thread to make it open to replies or not.


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Post Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:21 am 
 

jonjhargreaves wrote:FWIW I don't use any other forums other than Acaeum and have generally been very happy to see anouncements of great stuff, especially when linked to 1e AD&D like most of the items promoted here.

Is it not possible to change the Classified thread so that replies are possible?  This would allow for Q&A and updates without the need for new topics there.  

I agree this should be in Classifieds as with many of these promotions, but would like to see an opportunity to discuss as well.



"For any and all discussions related to role-playing game collecting.  If your post specifically concerns a non-TSR product (Judges Guild, Games Workshop, etc), it would be better placed in the Collecting General Non-TSR forum or an appropriate subforum. "

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Post Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:58 am 
 

It is appropriate here because it is a small-press, collector interest publishing work by one of our Acaeum members...just like all the other member projects that get discussed and advertised on the Acaeum forums.

It's also a re-issue of a publication that is enormously important in the development of Dungeons and Dragons and the OGL and the direction the industry is taking today.

Yes - it is an item for the non-TSR section, unless you consider how it is an artifact that resurrects TSR itself.  Could go either way on that.


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Post Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:44 am 
 

well I raised this a while ago.  All of these items really belong in the Non-TSR forum not here.

  

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Post Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:06 pm 
 

So this is really the TSR & anything that might be related to TSR forum? Then what is the non-TSR forum for?


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Post Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:12 pm 
 

clangador wrote:So this is really the TSR & anything that might be related to TSR forum? Then what is the non-TSR forum for?


Often members also confuse the "nonTSR" forum with "nonD&DTSR" and discuss Boothill, etc there.  The titles are generally consider guidelines - suggestions on where best to place the thread.

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Post Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:55 pm 
 

One might also ask why this particular strand has attracted your ire.

A scroll down the list of TSR strands reveals half a dozen non-TSR companies with discussions on the TSR page.   These strands are also equally advertisments for publications not printed by TSR.

Also, it is a technical matter but the name of the forum page is "Collecting General", not "TSR Collecting."


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Post Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:14 pm 
 

FormCritic wrote:It is appropriate here because it is a small-press, collector interest publishing work by one of our Acaeum members.


I'm not going to get into what is "appropriate" or not regarding location of posts.  For me the only issue with this thread is that there have already been several threads in the Non-TSR section of the forum specifically about Tome of Horrors and Frog God Games in general.  Keeping the threads for a specific topic in the same place generally makes it much easier to locate later down the road.  Especially when it comes to updates of a specific company or product.


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Post Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:41 pm 
 

I'm done belaboring it now.   :D


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Post Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:08 am 
 

FormCritic wrote:Also, it is a technical matter but the name of the forum page is "Collecting General", not "TSR Collecting."


Well the forums is actually titled:

Collecting General
General discussion of role-playing-game collectibles produced by TSR.


Note the last three words.  ;)

  


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Post Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:17 am 
 

While I do see the point about non-TSR topics showing up in a specific subforum, I think the actual issue is advertising to a closed audience.  There is a specific forum setup for that function (classifieds).  That forum also probably pulls far fewer hits than this one, hence the product producer's desire to post here, rather than there.

Same principle in one of the car forums I frequently visit.  There is a general forum for the specific model (Evo X), and advertising of any kind by any manufacturer is prohibited.  There is a seperate forum where tire/wheel/body/etc companys are allowed to hawk thier wares.

I don't think its a big deal, but it definately is savy on the part of the product producer.  Its free advertising to an audience that you know has the propensity to spend large $.  The question is where do you draw the line?  If Piazo, WoTC, <insert every other random RPG maker> decided to come here and start a new thread for each product they released, would you still want to read this particular forum?

  
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