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Post Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 4:13 pm 
 

Anyone else going this year?

I'm looking at their auction schedule for the convention, and Troll and Toad is not running the auction this year.

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Thursday is a silent bid auction, and Friday is the only day for the regular auction.

From three days to one... sadness... Then again if T&T isn't running the auction maybe they won't have someone sitting in the bidders area either...  8O


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Post Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 7:12 pm 
 

Maybe - depends if I can escape helping with the graduation party preparations.

  

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Post Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 8:16 pm 
 

Might go this year.  Not sure.  It was good seeing you last year, though.   :D


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Post Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:24 pm 
 

I think I'm going to take the whole family over on Friday or Saturday. We'll probably just do a family day pass so they can see what we've been missing.


and something tells me, our friends at T&T will still be in the front row for Friday's auction....

I forgot about the auction on Friday...might be the deciding factor on going Friday or Saturday  :D

  

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Post Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:34 pm 
 

They announced earlier convention dates for the next two years.

Both sets of dates were multi-day.


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Post Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:43 pm 
 

Hi,

with those early dates next year, a jaunt across the pond looks possible, to take in both that and the texas con :)

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Post Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:59 pm 
 

Just got home a little while ago. First time I've been to Origins (took the whole family - wife, 6 year old son, 11 year old daughter). There was stuff for all of us (but mainly me  :D ).

First stop....the main exhibit hall. There were a lot of vendors, manufacturers, etc inside. From the small press to the larger full scale operations, something was there for everyone. There were games for the entire range from pre-school (3-5 years old) to old die hard grognards.

I stopped by a booth when I saw some old FGU books...was digging through and asked the guy manning it how much a couple of them were. Looked up and saw I was at the Flying Buffalo booth and was talking to Ken St. Andre. Talked to him for a little while (never asked about Shipman) and had him sign a few of the T&T items I happened to pick up. My kids loved his stories, and you could tell he loved telling them.

Stopped by the Gamescience booth to pick up a 12 piece dice set. Saw some old game books on the wall in the back of their booth. I was talking to the guy that was helping me with the dice. He said "Everything on the wall has a price on it...and if it doesn't, ask the old man.". The "old man" being Lou Zochi himself.

Spent way too much over at Crazy Egors but anyone can do that.

Left the main exhibit hall....next step...the Art Show.

There was a range of styles and professionalism up for show. Some you could tell were amateurs but there were quite a few professional artists showing their art as well.

I got to meet Doug Kovacs (artist for most, if not all, of the new DCC RPG covers). He had some of the original art from them up for sale too. Great guy that seems down to earth and still likes to game.

I tried to meet Ed Beard Jr. (the Artist Guest of Honor this year), but he was no where to be found when we were in there.

Then we hit the kids free play area. If there was one place that needed more "oomph" then this was it. There just wasn't much that interested them.

All in all, I think it was a pretty good time for all of us. My wife liked the theme (Victorianna & Steampunk) and the Art Show, our kids liked the main exhibit halls and getting to demo new games, and I liked pretty much everything there. We will definitely be back next year and will probably be there for multiple days. There is a lot of good things to Columbus Ohio including one of the best Zoos in the US.

  

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Post Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:17 pm 
 

Same here... Had a great time at Origins 2011

- I played a lot of Fellowship of the White Star (D&D 3.5 circa 1908 Victorian fantasy/horror) last week.

- I got to play a Pathfinder Society event, which placed my now L12 Cleric of Sarenrae into semi-retirement.

- Played some Dominion as well. It's the best card game since M:TG!!!

- The Dealer's Room was sold out (and it was nice to see it filled up). I played a playtest of a card/board game called Mage Wars (fun), picked up a couple of D&D modules to fill some gaps, and a couple of smaller items. I don't see the fun in visiting a place like Crazy Egor's when they list prices at 300% over cost (God I am not that desperate).

- The Auction this year was a joke...

Origins ran the auction this year themselves (I'll get into that momentarily...). They ran it as two parts: Part one was a silent auction on Thursday, and a standard (Ohio/Professional Auctioneer) on Friday.

They held the silent auction in one of the great halls farthest from everything else in the building (the far north end). There were maybe a few hundred items all laid out with minimum bids (like a 6th print OD&D boxed set for $200 to start [yeah right...]). You placed your ID# and bid on the sheet, and the end time was 7:00pm Thursday night. And that was hilarious because there could only be a certain number of people in the auction area as they forced people out to circulate others around 6:30pm - 7:00pm when it got busier. Nothing of interest to us worth listing.

Friday had the standard auction upstairs at the far north end of the building in an even more isolated area than last year. It ran from 8:00am - 4:00pm, with the "collectables" from 3 to 4 pm. Again nothing of interest worth listing (one of those rare dice sets and some jewelcrafted dice...).

So I ran into Ed (Healey?) from Troll and Toad Thursday afternoon during the silent auction and asked him why T&T wasn't running the auction this year (I bid against Ed twice a year when T&T sends a rep out to our local games auction in NW Chicago). He mentioned that there was a (possible / probable) rift between GAMA and T&T because T&T sent/mailed out the stuff people bought on the trade show floor, as opposed to using the shipping services of the convention center (which makes sense, because generally convention service items are always higher). That and the fact that the computers were stolen a couple of years ago probably didn't really push T&T to want to come back to Origins either.

Say what you will about T&T, but I'd rather have them organize an auction than the crap that happened this year. Put the auction back in the center of the show floor and get the foot traffic through it.

- Origins has a couple of great restaurants right across the street: Hyde Park (steak & burgers), and Barley's (Sauerkraut balls and perogi).


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Post Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:58 pm 
 

Origins 2011 was my first ever it was definitely something of a mixed bag.
- The  silent auction was a debacle as far as I can see.  They actually cleared the hall at 6pm and made everyone get in a line and then let a few in at a time all the while haranguing them in the rudest possible way to hurry up.  If I was a seller, I would have been pissed because a lot of people walked away due to the treatment.
- The main auction didn't have a lot of items as far as I could see and everything was going for less than it should.  They couldn't even fill the day and had to take "breaks" so they could sell items at the time they told people they would come up.  The "Rares" were a joke and I didn't bother showing up.  I can't see why Live Game Auctions would want to be involved, there just wouldn't be enough product to justify their presence.
- The con itself was a lot of fun and I spent a lot of time demoing new games and playing train games with some nice people.  Everyone I met was friendly and nice.  It really seemed to be a nice place to play games and I think Origins really needs to emphasize that as it seems to be the best part of their show now.
- There was a noticeable difference between the number of people there and those I've seen at GenCon.  The guy I went with said this was the worst year for attendance he's seen since he's been going there.  They definitely need to get WOTC (amongst others) back as a vendor and get some more people back into the halls.  The vendor hall clearly wasn't filled and was probably only 2/3 the size of GenCon if not less.


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Post Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:48 pm 
 

yaya wrote:The "Rares" were a joke and I didn't bother showing up.

A decade ago, Ken and I were running things, and we packed 'em in, nonstop action (like GenCon is now). And then GAMA decided they didn't want us. (Many of the GAMA members believed that we were siphoning off cashflow from their area. We claimed the converse, and nowadays iirc about half the payouts of the GenCon auction -- ie more than $50,000 -- gets spent in the dealer room. GAMA hosed their own members on that one.)

The vendor hall clearly wasn't filled and was probably only 2/3 the size of GenCon if not less.

At one point is was a fifth the size; they've grown back considerably.

  

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Post Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:11 pm 
 

I ended up heading over on Friday and checking out Origins for the first time also. The auction did suck. If you were looking to pick up common games(sorry, monopoly, and some wargames) you could find some deals. Otherwise nothing, in the collectables they had a shrinked Hunt for Red October, and a 1st print MM with a starting bid of $75(maybe fine condition).
The vendor hall I would say was only about a 4th the size of GenCon and there wasn't a large crowd of people either. The fact that a one day badge only cost $5 was great though.

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Post Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:41 am 
 

I spoke with some of the vendors Sunday afternoon. They said that attendance was sporadic throughout the dealers hall, but sales were still good.

So that's a good sign.

Because of the auction debacle this year, I wrote a letter to GAMA and asked them to fix two things:

1) Put the auction back on the center-ground level area to create foot-traffic through the area, and to bring back T&T to run it.

2) Kiss whatever ass you need to bring WoTC back to run a Magic Tournament at Origins. A Grand Prix event would bring in hundreds of players... minimum...

They need to do these two things to keep the attendance at the same level of this year (or higher) since they've moved the event back a couple of weeks (first weekend of June) because Gencon was moved back a few weeks...


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