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Post Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:24 am 
 

Hi,

I recently aquired a "fanzinish" book called:

THAT'S NOT IN THE MONSTER MANUAL Vol 1

Does anybody here have any info regarding this?  I know there are Vol 1 and Vol 2. I only have vol 1...

I've heard it was aquired at a convention...??? anyway it contains the Beastiary from Dragon Magazines... low quality photocopy type pages... Neat...

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:30 am 
 

Are the pages just photocopies of the Dragon magazine pages or are they reformatted?

It sounds to me to be something that is a homebrew 1off rather than a small press publication.

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:35 am 
 

Mars wrote:Are the pages just photocopies of the Dragon magazine pages or are they reformatted?

It sounds to me to be something that is a homebrew 1off rather than a small press publication.


They are photocopies... low quality... but then bound into a soft backed book about magazine sized.

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:36 am 
 

I saw the auctions and was curious about them, too



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Post Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:16 am 
 

Yeah saw that too, I was expecting photocoppies of the Dragon mag pages at worst, re-typed stuff at best..

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:18 am 
 

I have never seen these before. It will be interesting to see if any more crawl out of the woodwork.
The binding appears to be one of the more modern hot-glue types. Not something most people would have in their garage in 1980-81.
Hard to tell from the picture.


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Post Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:29 am 
 

I could swear I had heard of these things before seeing that auction. Maybe others have come up in the past?

  

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:34 am 
 

misterspock wrote:I saw the auctions and was curious about them, too


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Those were the auctions... I won Volume 1 but lost Volume 2...  :evil:



A neat unusual item.



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Post Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:10 am 
 

If all it is is photocopies pages from Dragon magazine, I probably wouldn't classify it as a small press item - happy not have been bidding on them (even I have to draw the line somewhere).  Makes me doubt any others exist but the covers do look kinda familiar (the art is possibly taken from somewhere else too).  Any kind of production/distribution would step all over copyright laws - Outlaw Press anyone?.

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:14 am 
 

[quote="Mars"]If all it is is photocopies pages from Dragon magazine, I probably wouldn't classify it as a small press item - happy not have been bidding on them (even I have to draw the line somewhere).
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Post Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:33 am 
 

I was bidding on both of them despite the statements made in the interesting items on E-Bay thread (opinions stating they were likely Dragon Magazine Page Copies).

Not being sure at all myself though, I stopped at $16.50 each.
I was willing to risk that much just to read them to try to figure them out.

Still curious myself and I for one would be happy if you would post a scan of the copyright page (If there is one) and perhaps a page or two of content...
At the least describe the book better than the seller did.
How many pages?
Is there a date?
Publisher?
Author?
Illustrator?
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Post Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:54 am 
 

Mars wrote:Makes me doubt any others exist but the covers do look kinda familiar (the art is possibly taken from somewhere else too).


The cover art is also from the article "That's Not In The Monster Manual!" in Dragon 37.  When I found that out last week, I decided not to bid - much too likely to be just photocopies.


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Post Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:31 am 
 

I wondered why price was so high on this item. I was going to place a 3-4$ bid, just to see, and was astonished by the current bid. Since it is only photocopies, it does not worth more than anyone photocopies of Dragon mag, even if it is bound. As Mars said, I would not classify it in small press item.
Homebrew means that there is at least a few work on the item. Here, it seems that nothing have been done, only photocopies.
Is there anything more than Dragon articles?


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Post Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:15 am 
 

Yes, but the Dragon 37 article only covered 4 pages and I suspect those Volumes had far more pages.
Which is why I bid for a while on them both and we do NOT know for a fact that they are nothing but photocopies do we?
Did someone contact the seller to confirm that supposition as fact, or was that just a WAG?


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Post Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:33 am 
 

I think I found my summer job after NTRPG Con...photocopying Dragon mag articles!  Sucker......born.......every.......minute.....~! :roll:

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:28 am 
 

Badmike wrote:I think I found my summer job after NTRPG Con...photocopying Dragon mag articles!  Sucker......born.......every.......minute.....~! :roll:

Mike B.




Well, I guess I am the sucker....  :oops: but I still wish I would have won VOL 2 !!!!  8O



In hindsight what is a few bucks more?  Anyway I am into esoteric items... and I respect the energy taken (30 years ago?) to go thru each Dragon Magazine and collating them into a more usable format.... copyright infringement aside... lol...



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Post Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:42 am 
 

I guess that Mike meant that the seller is the sucker, not the buyer ;)

Some sellers know that they are selling photocopies, or part of boxed sets, but sell this kind of things as something as INCREDIBLY RARE THAT NO ONE WILL EVER SEE ANOTHER ONE ON EBAY AGAIN. These sellers are definitely suckers. They willfully rip off collectors/buyers.


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Post Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:13 pm 
 

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I am hoping you will post pics when you get Vol. 1...
Or at least describe what you have once it arrives in the post.

That said, I am one of those suckas, as I have bid on things before without knowing what I would be getting.

Last time I took a leap of faith like that on a badly described lot of items on E-Bay I scored big time.  :D
Most times, I do not.  :(

For my part, in this situation, I am witholding judgement until more is known.


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