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Post Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:09 pm 
 

Does anybody remember one recent post of mine about eBay problems? Well, they did not get solved, they got worse. To sum things, I can no more list, relist or modify any items on eBay. ANY eBay. The official reason? I cant' exceed 50,000 (yes, fifty thousands) dollars of sales in a given month or 2,500 items on sale at any moment. Well, I can assure you I have never been able to list 50,000 dollars of items anytime and at the moment I have around 1500 items listed.  :cry: When I wrote to the customer service telling this, I simply got no replies so far (I wrote them on December, 13...). Calling the eBay Powerseller customer (dis)service got me this answer: sorry, it's a decision from Upper Management in Luxemburg, we see you are right, we can call/email/poke the management there and they will surely answer you, why don't you send another email (I sent them an email every day!). Alas, I got this answer on every day I called from December 13, to December 20 (today).  :cry:  This morning I was told that because the limit was expressed in US dollars, it must have been something decided by Evil Americans because eBay Italy would use euros, not dollars...  :cry:  but eBay US told me: it's an eBay Italy thing, we can't help you, call them... Again?  8O  Any suggestions besides 'suck it up'  :roll:  would be appreciated...

  

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:24 pm 
 

Open a second eBay account and a second PayPal account, and run two accounts concurrently. Channel all your sales through that site for a while. That might be why Cougie operates more than one account. If they put up a ceiling on a single account, run multiples and list in both. You can always remove listings from one if they sell in another, and maybe occasionally you get disgruntled buyers who buy, when you've already sold through another sales channel, but that's life, and they need to understand the world of business and stck control, and being told 'Sorry we're out of stock' teaches some people a lesson.


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:25 pm 
 

Sounds like you are lost in the big machine :(

Hopefully things work out for you


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:42 pm 
 

I agree with mbassoc --- open a second eBay account.

However, you do not need to create a second PayPal account.  You can add multiple e-mail addresses to a single PayPal account.

  

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:15 am 
 

I have already a second eBay account I used to buy, but I decided to focus on my main account to reach more quickly the 'magic number' of 10,000 feedback that makes a very big impression on buyers.  8)  eBay Italy told me to open a second store while things are being 'surely sorted out in a few days'  :? but my problem is: I'm very much within such limits of 50,000 dollars in sales and 2500 items listed...  :cry:

  

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:18 pm 
 

Alexander1968 wrote:but my problem is: I'm very much within such limits of 50,000 dollars in sales and 2500 items listed...  :cry:

You certainly deserve an explanation from eBay, but you also need to have a backup plan.  eBay is wrong, but that does not help your eBay sales.  Paraphrasing a popular quote, "Do you want to be right, or do you want to sell on eBay?"

  


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:27 pm 
 

it's a decision from Upper Management in Luxemburg, we see you are right, we can call/email/poke the management there and they will surely answer you

I would contact them again and have them get involved. I know in the corporate environment I am in - If a dissatisfied individual goes far enough up the ladder then a resolution is handed down from the ivory tower.

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Post Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:32 am 
 

Or you could phone eBay and say, "I pay you X every month, and you are now interfering with my business, so either you solve this problime now, while I'm on the phone, or you remove all my listings and close my account, as you are breaching our contract under Italian Law.'

Don't speak to the monkeys who answer the phone. They are just random idiots they picked up in Job Centres. Keep asking to speak to a manager and move up the management tree until you get one with a brain and a pair of balls.

It's often a pain, but if you are persistent and tenatious, you can almost always get something solved quickly over the phone, or be compensated for not doing so.


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Post Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:54 am 
 

These are great suggestions but sadly I have already tried them. They keep telling me that talking with Luxemburg is like talking to the gods of Olympus and sorry sorry sorry you can't talk with our supervisors... and believe me, I'm calling every day. No, I can't afford to close the ebay store, but I have opened another one and started selling there - alas, a 600 feedback has not the same pulling power of a 9000+ one...  :cry:

  

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Post Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:03 am 
 

If they have made a mistake, and you can prove it, and they are having a quanifiable impact on your business, and you can prove that, sue them in the small claims court for breach of contract.


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:38 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:If they have made a mistake, and you can prove it, and they are having a quanifiable impact on your business, and you can prove that, sue them in the small claims court for breach of contract.


Unfortunately justice in Italy is not very reliable, especially for small businesses against big corporations. But I'll give this a try. Meanwhile, I ha found a way around the block drastically reducing my items for sale to enter the limit (it seems it was 1500 and not 2500...  :roll: ).

  

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:54 pm 
 

If you seriously do this as a business, especially if you are using it as a secondary outlet to supplement a physical stopfront, it seems most retailers use more than one eBay name, from small players like my local game store that has multiple eBay names, to big stores like Sony and the likes.

It seems to be the only way they manage to avoid the eBay problems. At least with multiple identities running concurrently, eBay are unlikely to shut them all down at the same time.

Glad to hear you're working it out, and on the upside, surely the final week before Xmas is a relatively quiet time? It is here in the UK for eBayers.


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Post Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 6:33 am 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:If you seriously do this as a business, especially if you are using it as a secondary outlet to supplement a physical stopfront, it seems most retailers use more than one eBay name, from small players like my local game store that has multiple eBay names, to big stores like Sony and the likes.

After pondering things out I decided to open a second store, Merlino Comics & Books & More selling all non game related merchandise. Problem is: the Lure of Feedback...  :roll:  Having a 9100 feedback is far better than having a almost 700 feedback... But at the moment books and comics are not a primary source of income so I can wait.

Christmas was a VERY busy season, I shipped parcels every day in Italy and in foreign barbarian language speaking countries  :P and I saw many customers in my physical location.  :D

Ah, you will be interested in knowing that eBay customer service did not reply to my messages, the first one being sent on December 13...  :?

  

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Post Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:16 am 
 

I would not sweat the feedback issue . . . I can't speak for everyone, but I like to see feedback in that 200-3000 range.  Once the feedback goes higher, I automatically start assuming that the customer service will go down . . .

10,000+ feedback almost always causes me to seriously consider whether I want to buy from the seller . . . I would rather spend a few dollars more on someone with much less feedback.  I figure the odds of contacting a 10,000+ seller are remote, the descriptions are vague and the shipping and handling duties are being farmed out.



NOTE:  I know there are many reputable sellers with great customer service that also have very high feedback . . . I'm just talking my first impression . . .


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Post Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:01 am 
 

Beyondthebreach wrote:I would not sweat the feedback issue . . . I can't speak for everyone, but I like to see feedback in that 200-3000 range.  Once the feedback goes higher, I automatically start assuming that the customer service will go down . . .
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Well, I answe quickly and personally :) anyway, my experience says people by far prefer high feedback to low feedback... I can't wait to reach the 10,000 feedback milestone  8)

  

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Beyondthebreach wrote:I would not sweat the feedback issue . . . I can't speak for everyone, but I like to see feedback in that 200-3000 range.  Once the feedback goes higher, I automatically start assuming that the customer service will go down . . .

10,000+ feedback almost always causes me to seriously consider whether I want to buy from the seller . . . I would rather spend a few dollars more on someone with much less feedback.  I figure the odds of contacting a 10,000+ seller are remote, the descriptions are vague and the shipping and handling duties are being farmed out.



NOTE:  I know there are many reputable sellers with great customer service that also have very high feedback . . . I'm just talking my first impression . . .


You should also consider how long the account has been open.  If that's 10000 feedback over 10 years, that's a lot smaller seller than if it's all in the last year or two.


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Post Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:33 pm 
 

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You should also consider how long the account has been open.  If that's 10000 feedback over 10 years, that's a lot smaller seller than if it's all in the last year or two.


Fair point. And you can always ask a question to the seller and notice 1) how long it takes to answer you 2) if seller uses a robo response  :?  or is really talking to you  8)

Me, I can't wait to hot the 10,000 mark. I already noticed a big boost as soon as I was around 8,000...

  

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Post Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:47 pm 
 

To be honest, all I look at is Negative (or neutral) feedback.  Anything over 10 or 15 Negs is a Red Flag, regardless of how many positives . . .


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