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shott
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Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:20 pm
Hi all,
Many, many years ago I used to be connected to the
rpg
industry which gave me the chance to acquire a quantity of (random) imagery associated with TSR/D&D. Unfortunately, the passion for acquiring pretty much anything I could get hold of was not matched with a small amount of common sense. I should have catalogued each bit of the collection while I still had some idea of what it was and where it was from. D'oh!
Having recently dragged my collection out of storage, I have identified most of them but have ended up with a bunch of pictures which I know are associated with TSR in some way but that's all. Many of the early products used art that was unsigned/undated which makes easy research pretty much impossible. Checking the web for "Old TSR art" or similar search terms is (obviously) futile and while I have copies of magazines ('Imagine' etc.), this has only helped identify some of the pictures. The other problem is that I suspect most of the 'unknown' pictures were generated for TSR UK when it was at 'The Mill' or soon after it moved to Cherry Hinton - neither periods of which are documented very well.
With being out of circulation for a very long time I have no idea how to resolve identifying their use/artist etc. so just thought I'd pop a post up here and see if anyone might be able to suggest a way of filling in the blanks.
I realise this must seem like a rather strange message to post but 'The Acaeum' (and its regulars) is the only site I could think of that might be able to help.
John Brown
Ex-TSR UK
Phentari
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Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:56 pm
Your best bet might be to simply scan them and ask if anyone can place them.
shott
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 4:54 am
Hi Phentari,
Have photos of them all - scanning wouldn't be an option for the larger ones (framed, some of these are over 3 foot in length). Might be worth cranking up the scanner for some of the b&w interior ones though - suspect the quality might improve if it didn't rely on occasionally 'odd' auto-focusing
.
I did look to see if there was somewhere I could 'dump' a bunch of images on the site but couldn't see anywhere (and given there are around 40 'unknowns' I didn't want to start popping stuff up in random locations).
J
ashmire13
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:22 am
Hi John, you may be able to put pics on photobucket and then link a message here.
I'd almost guarantee you'll get answers.
Dave
Rolls a '3'
"Did I hit.....?"
Johnson
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:24 am
Hi John,
you could ask someone round to help identify.
Theres me
And Angus - who now lives in Swindon, not that far from Wycombe.
And your Nemesis, Carl Crook, also strangely now lives in Wycombe (Fate is a weird thing).
Other than that, it really is posting pics of them.
Cheers,
Malc
I have a plan so cunning, you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel.
shott
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Location: New York City, USA
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:35 am
http://s1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb3 ... 20Unknown/
Dave - Thanks for the suggestion about 'Photobucket' - link above for the first 24 images
. I'll knock off more soon.
Hi Malc. Hope life is treating you well. Shows how long I've been away - didn't even know Angus had moved (last I knew he was still slumming it in Finchley)...
It would be cool to identify the artist(s) and where the images were used... Am currently trying to get in contact with D De-Leuw as I suspect he created a number of them (emailed and awaiting a reply). Quite a few were probably used in 'Imagine' but I don't have enough of the magazines to chase them down.
Any assistance on this would be gratefully received.
Take care, have fun.
J
smarmy1
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:50 am
Cool!
The Ravens appears to be the cover of UK5 Eye of The Serpent.
According to the Tome of Treasures site, Tim Sell is the artist
http://tomeoftreasures.com/tot_first_ed ... erpent.htm
The Female Caster appears to be the cover of I8 Ravager of Time with artist Jeff Anderson
http://tomeoftreasures.com/tot_first_ed ... oftime.htm
Good luck and please post to the forums if you should want to sell.
Have a great weekend.
Hello Mrs. Cleaver, Theodore.
Gee, Mrs. Cleaver ... That certainly is a lovely dress.
smarmy1
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:52 am
Elf 1 looks like the cover to O2 Blade of Vengeance with artist Jeremy Goodwin
http://tomeoftreasures.com/tot_dnd/modules/o2.htm
Enjoy.
Hello Mrs. Cleaver, Theodore.
Gee, Mrs. Cleaver ... That certainly is a lovely dress.
ashmire13
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:57 am
No problem John, glad it worked.
Good to have another UK member, especially a TSR contact
Rolls a '3'
"Did I hit.....?"
shott
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:59 am
<ROFL>
I thought I might get lucky and identify a few but that it would take a while. That will teach me not to look harder and many many thanks for the amazingly quick reply 'Smarmy1'!
J
smarmy1
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:06 am
The color covers were the easy ones. The black and white drawings will take more time as I will actually have to open the modules and take a look.
Several of the remaining ones do look familiar though.
Once the rest of the Acaeum wakes, you should have answers in relatively short order. Thanks for sharing the photos.
Hello Mrs. Cleaver, Theodore.
Gee, Mrs. Cleaver ... That certainly is a lovely dress.
TheHistorian
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Location: Seattle, WA
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:29 am
Given the art style, the UK produced modules and Imagine mags are probably the best places to start the search.
Areas of interest/knowledge: Harn, WFRP, Ars Magica, anything BRP based such as CoC, Runequest, Pendragon and all their related games
SoulCatcher78
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:34 am
Monster 4 has a tribal orc that looks like it's from
http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/modpage ... ns/x8.html
X8 Drums on Fire Mountain.
smarmy1
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:49 am
Magazine Panel 2 : Blade of Vengeance is from module O2 Blade of Vengeance pages 2 and 3. (Jeremy Goodwin) No surprises there.
Hello Mrs. Cleaver, Theodore.
Gee, Mrs. Cleaver ... That certainly is a lovely dress.
misterspock
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:02 am
"Dwarf Pole" is by Dan Frazier. It appeared in the box set "Dwarven Kingdoms of Krynn". I know it also appeared in his art book.
shott
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:09 am
Thanks again all - never thought it would be so quick. Should have popped a message up ages ago rather than try and muck about on my own.
And big thanks Soulcatcher - your suggestion about the tribal image helped nail another one of the unknowns I hadn't yet put up.
misterspock
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:35 am
Monsters 1-5 are from "Creature Catalog" AC9
Eel/Giant Squid = "Monsters 3"
Desert Ghost / Kara Kara ="Monsters 4"
Soul Eater / Tabbi = "Monsters 1"
Pachydermion / Faedorne = "Monsters 2"
btw
, I think they're all by Brian Williams (not the guy on NBC news
)
shott
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:12 pm
Given how quickly a bunch were sorted I thought I'd add a couple more to the list. One of note is the UK6 cover... Absolutely positive it is it but can't work out where the "Unleashed" title to the image comes from. Has anyone ever seen the image re-used (which would help explain the difference/addition)?
http://s1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb3 ... 20Unknown/
Thanks again for the help with this all and another big thanks to 'Misterspock' - that wasn't just the 4 you helped sort out (multiple monsters and multiple polearms)
J
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