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Post Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:16 pm 
 

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Busman wrote:Every single personal interaction I've had with the news, when I knew the true facts of something on the news, has shown that they do this sort of thing all the time. Not 100% of the time, but they choose shock/entertainment over facts time and time again.


That is my experience as well. I don't trust the news as the whole truth anymore.


I'll third this.

Everytime something I've been involved with, or something a neighbor/friends was involved with, has made it to the local news, it was a total FUBAR.  I can only imagine the national news takes the same approach. Heck, look what they did to D&D and EGG back in the 80's on 60 Minutes so they could tell the story they wanted.

Case in point, a friend of mine was shot in the back with a shotgun while doing something stupid.  He was drunk in a strange neighborhood, wandered away from a party, fell asleep in some bushes, awoke and mistook another house a block away for the house he was partying at. He began banging on the front door telling those inside to let him in.  It didn't help that it was after midnight, and that the homeowner had been robbed in the past by kids who broke into his garage.   When the door opened and instead of his buddies, there was an angry pld black man with a shotgun, he realized his mistake and turned around and took off running. The homeowner let him have a load of buckshot in his rear and back (lucky it wasn't a heavier load or my friend would be dead) and called the police.  My friend was picked up later wandering the street, bleeding and still a bit drunk, and spent the night in the drunk tank (and in the hospital getting shot pried out of his ass, legs and back).  In the end he wasn't charged with anything but public intoxication (everyone from the police to the homeowner believed his story, and figured he'd paid for his stupidity enough).

The next day, the story ran on the local news, along the lines of "Homeowner fights off home invasion!".  The guy was made out to be a hero for fighting off some punk kid with his shotgun, I don't think the story ever mentioned my weaponless friend was hit in the ass while running away. With what I am sure was a 15 minute interview with the homeowner cut down to a 2 second sound bite.  We still laugh about that when we get together.

Another time a friend of mine that was doing some kind of ride your bike across Texas for a charity was interviewed by a local station. They somehow managed to get his name, the mileage he was riding, and the name of the charity wrong, all in one 15 second clip. Astounding!

In 1986 my friends and I went to Spring Break in South Padre Island.  My parents at the time had  house there and about a dozen of us crashed there. The second day there, most of my friends went across the border to Matamoras, and two got arrested for smoking a joint outside a bar (stupid, stupid, stupid).  The next couple of days their parents worked with an attorney and counsel to get them released (which they eventually secured with a couple of 10k bribes).  The local newspaper reportage was incredibly bad.  They got their names, sex, charges, everything wrong, even had them as a trio instead of just two of them (with some poor saps name being used for the non-existent third guy).  Being intimate with the situation it was amazing how little in the reports was actually true....the one good result being it would be impossible to look back and discover this ever happened and match it up to the two people I knew since everything that was in the newspaper that week was completely inaccurate.

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Post Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:21 pm 
 

Nobody worries about it too much when white guys kill each other:

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Post Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:43 pm 
 

Badmike wrote:Nobody worries about it too much when white guys kill each other:


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Sadly the same can be said for nearly all intra-racial homicides. The most terrible part is this is especially true for African-Americans, at least in major metropolitan areas. In Arizona Latino on Latino murders hardly even make the news.

Meh, I need to stop reading this stuff, it makes me sad.  :(

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Post Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:55 am 
 

From the liberal pantywaists at Fox News: "Voice heard screaming on 911 tape is not Trayvon Martin shooter George Zimmerman, expert says"

If the voice is not his but he claimed it was, it will have implications for the case. But the alternative is much funnier. This big guy has the high-pitched voice of someone who apparently never completed puberty? He could therefore become the eternal poster boy of neurotic mammas' boys everywhere. Even here. Especially here. No wonder Fox is trying to cover it up.

  

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Post Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:46 am 
 

The forbidden topic that is not being touched on...

Tragic events like this are made possible by the gun culture of the United States that permits private citizens to carry firearms openly and/or concealed.
It permits people with strong "inner fantasy lives" to pretend they are law enforcement officers or soldiers or some kind of superhero.


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:54 am 
 

jasonw1239 wrote:The forbidden topic that is not being touched on...

Tragic events like this are made possible by the gun culture of the United States that permits private citizens to carry firearms openly and/or concealed.
It permits people with strong "inner fantasy lives" to pretend they are law enforcement officers or soldiers or some kind of superhero.


I can't disagree. But the problem is learning to work within that culture to effect change. Fantasies about limiting firearms or taking away weapons are futile, the genie has been out of the bottle for some time now. And the facts are with as many guns as this nation has ever owned (over 200 million), crime is down to record levels (below the 70s and 80s, when there were less guns out there).  It's been dropping since 1991, and 2010 was the lowest rate of overall crime in the US since 1970 (violent crime quadrupled in the 60s and went up from there until a peak in 1990-91). So despite the gun culture of the US and the prevalence of firearms, crime has been steadily decreasing during our lifetime.  

What has happened is that with less crime, more publicity is given to cases like the Trayvon Martin killing.  In 1975 this wouldn't even have made the newspapers, much less the national media.  Add to this the explosion of social media, and you have a cause celebre.

Unfortunately there is not a good test for being an ass hat moron. If there were, then maybe we could give that test to people who want to own guns, have kids or get a driver's license. It would sure make me happier.

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Post Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:27 pm 
 

Nogrod wrote:NBC to do an internal investigation regarding editing of 911 call

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NBC played the conversation on the "Today Show" as: "This guy looks like he's up to no good.  He looks black."

The unabridged version is:

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he's up to no good. Or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about.
Dispatcher: OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?
Zimmerman: He looks black.

I hate the news media and they owe this guy, and their viewers, an apology.

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Or with a good lawyer a great lawsuit...?


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:43 pm 
 

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Or with a good lawyer a great lawsuit...?


Since Zimmerman now can be considered a public figure slander and/or defamation has a higher threshold legally to prove. However; if they can show malice, in legal sense, they have got a case in my opinion.

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Post Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:58 pm 
 

Yikes, looks like Dragonsfoot had the Big Crash today.  Doesn't look good. Hope they get it back up without too much loss of data.

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Post Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:30 pm 
 

Nogrod wrote:
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Since Zimmerman now can be considered a public figure slander and/or defamation has a higher threshold legally to prove. However; if they can show malice, in legal sense, they have got a case in my opinion.

Not an attorney,

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I think it would be hard for Zimmerman not to win a lawsuit on this issue.  He'd have to work at it.

What Zimmerman needs is for the hispanic political machine to rev up in his defense the way the African American political machine has roared behind his attacker.  I think if his name had been Gonzalez, this would have happened right from the start.


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:35 pm 
 

jasonw1239 wrote:The forbidden topic that is not being touched on...

Tragic events like this are made possible by the gun culture of the United States that permits private citizens to carry firearms openly and/or concealed.
It permits people with strong "inner fantasy lives" to pretend they are law enforcement officers or soldiers or some kind of superhero.


Actually, this kind of crime is quite rare....and it isn't at all clear that this is what happened in the Zimmerman/Martin case.


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:46 am 
 

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It's good to get a new perspective once in a while.  It puts things in context....makes sense of life.


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:21 am 
 

FormCritic wrote:and it isn't at all clear that this is what happened in the Zimmerman/Martin case.


No it isn't, because figuring that out would require a basic understanding of human behavior.

  

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:32 am 
 

If people are so upset that the baseball season extends into November now, why on Earth is "Opening Day" now April 6th?

Someday after the gargoyle has passed away, Bud Selig's reign as Baseball's commissioner will be remembered as 20+ years of stupidity.

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:35 am 
 

The battle is heating up in London's mayoral elections...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012 ... ivingstone

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:17 am 
 

Badmike wrote:Yikes, looks like Dragonsfoot had the Big Crash today.  Doesn't look good. Hope they get it back up without too much loss of data.

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First day the site said it was down for maintenance.

Second day... now I'm looking at some sort of SQL error... not good...  :cry:


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