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Post Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:08 am 
 

Deadlord39 wrote:Now, now, Shane, no need to get mad at him. I've been looking for a good JG site myself!  :lol:
So Monte Crook is vecnapoop?


Hey, don't you take the crown from X!

Wait, this could be a competition..who's the biggest Jerk.

Hum...what to call it...

oh I know..the Jerk Off :wink:

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:13 am 
 

Actually, you did a fantastic job with the subweb. Pretty much blows away any other JG site out there.
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Post Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:34 am 
 

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:12 am 
 

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I have cut out all the crap that you posted and will simply say this.  First off and foremeost, you are a liar, period.  You are the one behind these tough guy secret Ebay ID attacks, its blatantly obvious to pretty much everyone.  Other than the fact that evidence is/was so damning all by itself, you went ahead and did your best after you got discovered to immediately delete your about me page and your myspace page.  With that in mind do you honestly think that anyone is dumb enough to actually believe that you haven't already changed your Ebay information twice by now? Please don't make me laugh.  

As far as finding out your info goes, any Paypal payments you have made will still be on record as to who and what paid for it in the sellers history as well as the shipping address, it doesn't change.  Are you really sure you want me to get that information to compare?

Oh and I know you don't live in Tampa(no one ever said you did), you live in Tarpon Springs which looks to be about 15 to 20 miles outside of Tampa.  Yeah, it would be real difficult to get a Tampa Bay Road Runner account from there.   :lol:


Why don't you go crawl back under the rock you crawled out from and never, ever come out.


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Post Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:43 am 
 

mr-monte-hall wrote:To Whom it May Concern:

I don't care if you like what I post on my About Me page because I have a right to post it.

I've never bid on any of BadMike3Books auctions and I've never sent him any emails. I definitely didn't send the one posted in this thread. I also never held a roadrunner account, never lived in Tampa, or sent anything more threatening to another ebay user than an occasional note that unless an auctioned game comes in a package that includes a few live players too, then maybe the shipping price is out of control.

Your "investigation" is stupid. Your evidence is pretty much that an email from a hotmail account goes to a myspace page for a user named "Nick" in the same city as me and that I have an about me page which says I hate resellers.

Wow. Caught completely red handed. Buckle me up and drop the pill in the pan.

Some of you know me (have mailed things to me) and know my name isn't Nick. Still, since your abortion of an investigation I've received a half a dozen nasty comments through the ebay system from cocky, arrogant jerks that have nothing better to do with their time than to "get back" at me. Some of these guys think its funny to screw around with auctions I'm trying to win. God, just reading some of the stuff you write to me, each other, and your customers is the most obnoxious thing ever.

If you think you have a valid complaint -- then you turn over emails with headers to ebay, ISPs, and law enforcement. You don't do what you just did to me. Roadrunner and hotmail are responsive to complaints that include headers.

If you want to keep me on your blocked list, whatever. I try not to buy from you guys anyway if I know you're occupational resellers. Maybe some resellers are actually nice people (just not the ones who post here). Well its nothing against you as people -- it is my personal choice not to support a behavior that I consider objectionable.

I'm not a vengeful person but God help you guys if stuff starts showing up at my house or if one of you stalkers starts calling my phone.

To anyone on this list who has dealt with me, and has my contact information -- I would appreciate if you would review it and post any blatant conflicts with the information bclarkie and others have posted -- but WITHOUT posting my personal information.

I'm sorry that you guys make the time to deal with this garbage. I don't. I expect this to stop and I expect to be able to buy and sell without conspiring, reselling jerks messing up my auctions. I plan to continue using the userid I've had for eight years because I have a great record with it. It's better than some of yours even if my numbers are a lot lower.

Thank You

(not "Nick" and I don't even know a Nick)


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Let me just say up front you probably should just cancel the ebay id.  It's very doubtful you'll ever win anything again using it (excepting Ru Emerson books, bleh) and the only purpose it serves now is for us to track your movements...which is the reason I didn't report you to ebay and get you shut down that way.  I'd rather have you in my cross hairs than have you sneaking around in the shadows where I can't see you.  Plus, I want YOU to be the one that cancels your 8 years old ebay name, a fit conclusion to your campaign of intimidation and sore losing.



To say you aren't Vecnapoop, or the interestingly named Kill-all-Middleman, is to presume a conspiracy so vast and tight knit that the writers of the X-Files wouldn't have aired it as being "too implausable for this show."  To wit:



Someone with the eBay name Kill-all-Middleman with the email address of figurehead_73@hotmail.com tried to buy all the most expensive items in my store and not pay, luckily I stopped them and cancelled the bidder id before too much damage was done.  BTW, as a powerseller I made one 5 minute call to ebay and it was all cleared up......you inconvenienced me approximately 15 minutes, way to go dude.  Anyway, I figured the email address was a fraud....until a smart ass, bullying, threatening email came in from it shortly afterwards, meaning it was a legitimate location of the guy that tried to buy my stuff (yes the headers match, you imbecile...you think I didn't check that first thing to make sure someone wasn't sending from another address?).   



Oddly enough then, things started falling into place when BC linked a myspace page based in Tarpon Springs, Fl (forget the name "Nick", probably a fake name given the homo-erotic tone of the myspace page; probably just a page to troll for other gay friends, not anything wrong with that) to the email address.  Then, imagine everyones surprise when the address Tarpon Springs coincidentally enough matches the guy who had to overbid me on an item the day before (I buy very little on ebay and it was easy enough to see who had outbid me on the last few auctions) and has an About Me page where he rants about "evil Middlemen".  To top it off, looking as guilty as a fox caught in a hen house, the next day you cancel the incriminating Myspace and About Me pages??????  I just have one question: ARE YOU KIDDNG ME?  I'm supposed to believe this is all a set up? (whoops, two questions).



There are only three possibilities: One, that you are innocent and all the interesting tidbits are COMPLETELY coincidental, such as the email user having a Tarpon Springs address he shares with you (not LA, not New York City, not Miami, not Dallas, no, TARPON SPRINGS); You having to overbid me on an auction the day before; and having an anti-reseller rant on your about me page; or, Two, that someone for some reason, you don't know who or why, is setting you up for some reason by manipulating things into the perfect frame; or Three, that it's you and you got caught pants down and dick in hand, and are trying like crazy to salvage something (not your rep, that's gone dude) by finally manning up and responding in this forum.



I'll take #3 for $100, Alex.  Sorry, I am by nature a very skeptical person but the chances this is a coincidence, or that you were set up, are so astronomical as to be discounted.   I am also however a very forgiving person by nature, and not shitting you if you had responded by email or in this forum apologizing for your asinine behavior  both this time and as Vecnapoop, or simply faded away, I might have just left it at that.  To come here and try to bow up with that weak ass nonsense is the height of arrogance, befitting the email I got the day someone tried to mess with my livelihood by telling me they were going to hound me until I stopped bidding on items on ebay.  



Let me just pause here to add:



YOU.....WILL...NEVER.....WIN....ANYTHING....AGAIN.....USING MRMONTEHALL AS YOUR EBAY NAME!!!!!



I also would like to add that I have never harassed you or sent you anything except an email to your address asking you to desist emailing me or bothering me anymore.  Harassment and stalking are not my style, and frankly I don't have the time to waste screwing around with you since I'm running a business here.  Honestly I think that stuff is counter productive because it gives the victimizer a false sense that THEY are the victim here and increases their arrogance to the point they try to justify their criminal behavoir with even more outlandish BS. Case in point.....



Anyway, if you continue posting (please just go away, but you probably wont), if you could answer these questions:



1. Who is setting you up and why?



2. Why did you cancel your Myspace and About Me pages a day after the incident?



3. Do you think it's odd someone from the same city as you (which is not an urban metropolis with a million people I take it) sent the taunting email to me?



4.  Do you think it's odd that someone who hates resellers, like yourself, would just happen to try and sabotage my online business a day after I drove up the price on an item you won a bid on?



5.  Without resortng to aliens, time travel, or clones, can you possibly explain the incredible series of coincidences that led us to this point if you are truly not guilty?



I really don't expect any answers because the arrogance in your tone as you write in this thread perfectly matches the arrogance of the threatening email I got the day of the incident.  Look, let's be honest here, you are mad because you flubbed up and got caught, not that you are being unjustly accused.  You got sloppy...it happens in the heat of the moment. Obviously creating a fake email address would have been preferable, obviously leaving your Myspace page linked to the email was a boneheaded move, not waiting longer between winning the item and trying to sabotage my business showed impatience,  and the taunting email was just the kind of lame ass crap that got the Riddler ass kicked by Batman on so many occasions.  Hey, they even caught the Unabomber finally, everyone makes mistakes.



The advice I would give you is to become invisible....fade away into the woodwork, forget about Ebay for awhile, go fishing out there in Tarpon Springs somewhere, and let us FORGET about you.  I mean, right now every single day the first thing someone MIGHT be logging in your ebay name to keep track of your auctions; but who knows?  In a few months without activity they might just blow it off, and you can get back to trying to win modules for 59 cents or whatever.



But your chances of winning anything in the next few months?  I'd say NIL, and I'd say it with confidence. The sudden upsurge in RPG interest I feel will drive up prices, probably on the VERY SAME ITEMS YOU ARE LOOKING FOR, which in some cases are items resellers like myself can profit from by buying then jacking up the prices so as to supply ourselves with expensive Cuban cigars and Glenfiddich scotch as we sit back in our leather recliners and laugh about crushing the "little guy" inbetween our cadillac-driven vactations to Martha's Vineyard.



Because I know your ego won't allow it, I'll become very uninterested in anything you are looking for on ebay if you apologize on this forum for your boorish behavior. I don't see that happening though; shit like you will go down swinging rather than admit they got caught in the act.



Let me also promise you that if ANYTHING like this happens again to my ebay auctions, I'll be on the phone immediately to Ebay with your REAL name, address, ebay id, screen shots of your myspace and Aboutme pages, and other pertinent info, getting your ass booted for good, and see if I can find any sort of half ass lawyer to file harrasment charges against your lying ass, as well as sue you in civil court for causing a loss of money to my business...and you think things are inconvenincing you NOW?



Oh, and interestingly, I have a LOT of relatives that live in Tampa, so travelling there to prosecute your lame lying ass is NO problem...



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Post Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:50 pm 
 

mr-monte-hall wrote:Who the hell do you think you are to tell me how to bid.

Dude, dude, dude ... after watching you get your ass completely handed to you in the posts above, you're going to have to trust me when I say that you've got much bigger issues than what I think of your eBay strategies.

Xaxaxe wrote:It's time for me to kick back with some popcorn and see if your story can hold up to the inevitable poking and prodding it will receive Saturday. It should be fun.

Holy mother of ... if this was a boxing match, the referee would be stopping it right about now.

Mr. Monte Nick: seriously, bro, throw in the towel. You're getting clobbered here. If it makes you feel any better, though, you're hardly the first person to visit these boards with some elaborate conspiracy theory that was then shot to pieces through basic research of information publicly available at a number of internet sites.

Xaxaxe wrote:If you don't care, why did you just delete the entire page?

Still waiting for an answer ...

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:59 pm 
 

Mike, you really need to just shut up. I never sent you any emails (from anywhere) or any contacts from ebay. I get outbid all the time on ebay, often by people on this site, but I don't do anything about it except write an About Me page in the hopes that it bothers you and disuades your customers. (No, I'm not fooling myself into thinking it makes a difference.)



Maybe I just don't like Texans though. You got me.



I didn't delete any myspace pages becuase I DON'T HAVE ANY MYSPACE PAGES.



I took the About Me page down after like four notes telling me I was never going to win anything again. And yes, I reported all those users.



I don't think anyone was out to get me when this happened, Mike (other than you guys). See I don't make a lot of enemies. But I do think someone is out to get you. And good luck to him.



Brian, you're just wrong. All that the paypal addresses from the past few years will prove is that I am who I say I am and that I've never had a Roadrunner address linked to either paypal or ebay which makes sense becuase I've never been a roadrunner customer. It will also not have "Nick" or "figurehead" anywhere in it.



Did you guys know that my About Me page was inspired from reading (a gentler toned) one from someone else? I'm not the only one who feels this way. Hell, you have people posting on your own boards who can at least sympathize. But none of US are ruining YOUR auctions...



You guys do what you need to do to feel like you have a purpose in an otherwise empty existence. It doesn't seem to matter if you're right as long as you can make each other look cool.



Mike, did you know we actually had a conversation on this board a few years ago and you actually seemed like a pretty nice guy? What the hell man.

  


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Post Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:10 pm 
 

mr-monte-hall wrote:
Brian, you're just wrong. All that the paypal addresses from the past few years will prove is that I am who I say I am and that I've never had a Roadrunner address linked to either paypal or ebay which makes sense becuase I've never been a roadrunner customer. It will also not have "Nick" or "figurehead" anywhere in it.


I see we have a little game of show and tell going on.  You are showing us a lot, but telling us nothing.  Not one single thing in this post would be expected to be found(except perhaps the name Nick, middle name maybe?). Everyting else you just said in this post does not invalidate anything that has been proven, so far which is actually a lot.  Its all just a bunch of hand waving.  I am now however going to find out your contact information directly, since you seem to think its not going to prove anything, you know just to be sure.

mr-monte-hall wrote:Did you guys know that my About Me page was inspired from reading (a gentler toned) one from someone else?


Prove it.


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Post Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:00 pm 
 

mr-monte-hall wrote:Mike, you really need to just shut up. I never sent you any emails (from anywhere) or any contacts from ebay. I get outbid all the time on ebay, often by people on this site, but I don't do anything about it except write an About Me page in the hopes that it bothers you and disuades your customers. (No, I'm not fooling myself into thinking it makes a difference.)

Maybe I just don't like Texans though. You got me.

I didn't delete any myspace pages becuase I DON'T HAVE ANY MYSPACE PAGES.

I took the About Me page down after like four notes telling me I was never going to win anything again. And yes, I reported all those users.

I don't think anyone was out to get me when this happened, Mike (other than you guys). See I don't make a lot of enemies. But I do think someone is out to get you. And good luck to him.

Brian, you're just wrong. All that the paypal addresses from the past few years will prove is that I am who I say I am and that I've never had a Roadrunner address linked to either paypal or ebay which makes sense becuase I've never been a roadrunner customer. It will also not have "Nick" or "figurehead" anywhere in it.

Did you guys know that my About Me page was inspired from reading (a gentler toned) one from someone else? I'm not the only one who feels this way. Hell, you have people posting on your own boards who can at least sympathize. But none of US are ruining YOUR auctions...

You guys do what you need to do to feel like you have a purpose in an otherwise empty existence. It doesn't seem to matter if you're right as long as you can make each other look cool.

Mike, did you know we actually had a conversation on this board a few years ago and you actually seemed like a pretty nice guy? What the hell man.






Hell, I AM a pretty nice guy until someone threatens my livliehood...then I get annoyed.



Monte, you do realize what this means, don't you?  IF YOU'RE TELLING THE TRUTH (yeh, let's spin this conspiracy worthy of a season of "24" out a little longer, if nothing it'll entertain X some more this afternoon), you seem to have an enemy more devious than Moriarty and more pure evil than Dr. Doom rolled into one. Despire your denials, someone has set you up to be the kickball in an elaborate scheme to stick it to me....and just accidentally chose YOU as the patsy in this plan?



Man, sorry to tell you, it sounds like you have one HELLUVA enemy despite your protestations to the contrary.  Someone who knows you well enough to link a myspace page you've never heard of to your ebay about me page (with the very incriminating "I hate middlemen" theme), the clincher being the city of Tarpon Spirngs which just happens to show up TWICE on the same day you outbid me on an item.  



Dude, you have WAY bigger problems than a bunch of D&D collector dorks hounding your ass...sounds like there is someone out there who is bound and determined to ruin your reputation and impede your ability to do business on ebay.  Man, rather than wasting time here (futilely I might add) you need to sit down and think about who HATES you enough to sick the Acaeum posse on you.  I mean, kill-all-middlemen messed up my day for a total of maybe thirty minutes TOPS during which I blocked him, cancelled his bids through ebay, relisted the items, was refunded my fees, and got his id cancelled. To pull back the curtain a little, I was cooking dinner at the time and handled the problem between throwing the green beans in the pot and the chicken in the oven.....it sounds like YOU are the one heavily inconvenienced by our mysterious friend. Now EXACTLY who does it seem has the "enemy"?  



Dude, we are doing you a FAVOR it looks like....you obviously have some head case that is so pissed at you he's setting you up like the CIA set up Oswald, only with an even TIGHTER frame than that skinny freak got.  I'm going to give you a heads up, the mysterious enemy goes by "nick", had a myspace page until the other day, uses the email address figurehead_73@hotmail.com, obviously is familiar with both where you live (Tarpon Springs) and what your attitude towards resellers is(generally a shitty one), and what items you bid on and when (the Isle of the Ape you outbid me on) enough to set you up for the crime.  Frankly, if it was me and I knew I was innocent, I would be absolutely creeped out that someone is so familiar with me they can tighten the noose so skillfully. We are talking family, friends, or yes, close enemies that know you very well.  Honestly it sounds like he has to live nearby, I'd start there.



Unless you can explain why someone would go to such lengths to ruin your day (and ebay rep) I am absolutely DONE with you.  Next time leave me out of your half ass theories on economics and the ebay marketplace and just BID A LITTLE MORE to win your crap.



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Post Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:31 pm 
 

Badmike wrote:... if nothing it'll entertain X some more this afternoon

Hey, I'm all for that. The only other thing on today's schedule is cleaning out the (unheated) garage. God save my poor frozen body.

I think the fun might be over, though. All I see when I look in Mr. Monte Nick's direction is a smoking crater ...

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:57 pm 
 

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:41 pm 
 

I don't deny that there's often some humor in these exchanges, especially when you go back and read the posts a few weeks later and wonder, "What the hell was this hubbub about?"

To be fair, though, this case really is pretty serious. Here we have an idiot (possibly, idiots, plural) who has openly threatened to bring down Mike's livelihood. That can't go unchallenged.

Do I think it will actually happen? Not a chance in hell. But idiots like these need to see a swift and sure response. It's all they understand.

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:11 pm 
 

who has openly threatened to bring down Mike's livelihood. That can't go unchallenged.

Do I think it will actually happen? Not a chance in hell. But idiots like these need to see a swift and sure response. It's all they understand.


On that, we agree. I didn't mean to imply it should be otherwise.


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Post Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:18 pm 
 

Seems I have acquired my very own troll over on DF:

http://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/profi ... ile&u=7541

Who wants to bet who this is.  :lol:


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Post Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:46 pm 
 

Wow, that is ... clever. :?

But, hey, at least he won't be messing with you in the General Discussion category, from what I hear.   :wink:

*Sigh* I've always wanted my own personal troll. I get close sometimes, but they always end up banned or something.

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:53 pm 
 

Xaxaxe wrote:Wow, that is ... clever. :?

But, hey, at least he won't be messing with you in the General Discussion category, from what I hear.   :wink:

*Sigh* I've always wanted my own personal troll. I get close sometimes, but they always end up banned or something.


He already tried to post twice in one of my Classified threads, but thankfully EGG who is a moderator over there deleted them.  I will say that this guy is done and I mean done.  I am in the process of trying to find out who this guy really is and once I do, its over.


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