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Post Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:23 pm 
 

FormCritic wrote:A recent issue of Rolling Stone magazine explained the Hall of Fame selection process.

There is a group of 200 voters (musicians, inductees and music industry people) who narrow down from a list of (as I recall...details do not really matter) 50 or so each year.  The list of 50 is nominated by a more central committee (or maybe I have it backwards?).

Doesn't matter...

What matters is that the 200 or so voters select artists based upon the quality of their work, influence upon other musicians, longevity, popularity and a number of other ephemeral qualities.  There is usually a selection of "heritage" artists and an attempt to include multiple styles of music...and also rap.  A certain number of unknown but important "side men" are also inducted...usually one per year.

Does not surprise me that KISS is not in the Hall of Fame.  They were never about the critics or the esteem of their peers.  They were about cash money...and they got it.  Their cultural influence was big.  Their musical influence, not so much.

The Moody Blues seem a more likely heritage act than some.

Rush strikes me as more accomlished, more honored and more influential than most of the acts I can think of.  If the Hall of Fame were in Canada, Rush would have been the opening act at the first induction ceremony.


Just to let you know, the list I posted was from Time magazine, but I admit that most of the names are ones I'd put on my personal list. Also, I believe a band has to have had 20 years since their first release to be nominated, so I'm sure Nirvana will get in pretty soon when their time comes out.

I've thought the entire selection process is a stupid joke since David Bowie didn't get in on his first "ballot". He's only one of the five most influential figures in rock history, sheesh.

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Post Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:16 pm 
 

Tharizdun, don't forget "Tuesday Afternoon", for the Moody Blues!

Badmike, I thought and heard that it was 25 years after first release before a group or person could be nominated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

  

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:53 am 
 

Anyone here use one of the online storage systems like Carbonite?  I signed up for their free trial and think it's a good idea, but it really doesn't do anything an external hard drive does, except make sure your information is "off site" in case of fire, theft, flood, etc.  Does anyone have any experiences with using one of these services?

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:16 pm 
 

No experience with these, but I would not want to either. Why give someone else all your personal info? Papers, please. Store your backups in a safe.

  

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:27 pm 
 

Kingofpain alerted me to this:

http://community.gencon.com/forums/t/22294.aspx

Made famous on our second trip to Gencon (2008) when we got the second worst service I have ever gotten in a restaurant, and Smarmy about went ballistic on our smartass waiter.  Looks like a Buffalo Wings and Rings, whatever that is, is taking their place. Wish Buffalo Wild Wings was closer...

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:53 pm 
 

Badmike wrote:Kingofpain alerted me to this:

http://community.gencon.com/forums/t/22294.aspx

Made famous on our second trip to Gencon (2008) when we got the second worst service I have ever gotten in a restaurant, and Smarmy about went ballistic on our smartass waiter.  Looks like a Buffalo Wings and Rings, whatever that is, is taking their place. Wish Buffalo Wild Wings was closer...

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:22 pm 
 

Badmike wrote:Anyone here use one of the online storage systems like Carbonite?  I signed up for their free trial and think it's a good idea, but it really doesn't do anything an external hard drive does, except make sure your information is "off site" in case of fire, theft, flood, etc.  Does anyone have any experiences with using one of these services?

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I advise against it, Mike. I've had customers inquire about it before and I am VERY against storing data with someone else. There is no indemnity clause if they are cracked and your info is compromised. If they go under, poof! All gone.
External drives are stupidly cheap right now and easy to use. I'd go that route, or install another internal HDD if you have a desktop.


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:18 am 
 

RaisedFromTheDead wrote:
I advise against it, Mike. I've had customers inquire about it before and I am VERY against storing data with someone else. There is no indemnity clause if they are cracked and your info is compromised. If they go under, poof! All gone.
External drives are stupidly cheap right now and easy to use. I'd go that route, or install another internal HDD if you have a desktop.


Thanks guys.  I signed up for the free trial, and after an entire day of downloading, they have exactly 1 gig of my 200 gig harddrive stored (about half my turbo lister files). At the rate of a gig a day it's going to take them six months to back up my hard drive....I agree, I think a portable external is the quicker, safer and easier way to go.  I'll start looking around tomorrow.

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:49 am 
 

You can get a 1TB external hard drive for around $100 in most cases.  Fry's usually has some pretty good deals and you can sometimes get a decent mail-in or in-store rebate as well.  I recommend Seagate external drives over Western Digital.  I've owned both and the Western Digital died on me about a year after I bought it.  Both of my Seagate drives are still working fine after two years.

They currently have a Seagate 1.5TB external drive for 109.99 after rebate:

http://www.frys.com/product/5806453?sit ... IN_RSLT_PG

Compare that to the Seagate 1TB drives at NewEgg and Tiger Direct:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822148356

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications ... =S130-8120

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:45 am 
 

Badmike wrote:
Thanks guys.  I signed up for the free trial, and after an entire day of downloading, they have exactly 1 gig of my 200 gig harddrive stored (about half my turbo lister files). At the rate of a gig a day it's going to take them six months to back up my hard drive....I agree, I think a portable external is the quicker, safer and easier way to go.  I'll start looking around tomorrow.

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Keep in mind also, if you are dead set on having some form of off-site backup (always a good idea) in case of fire, flood, burglary, etc., you could put your files on the external drive and then store it at a family member's house, in a safety deposit box, etc.


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:09 am 
 

Kingofpain89 wrote: I recommend Seagate external drives over Western Digital.  I've owned both and the Western Digital died on me about a year after I bought it.


Its funny because I would probably recommend the Western Digital drive over the Seagate one :)  I have owned a few of each - most are still kicking around but the one drive that went on me was a Seagate.  I think both companies are probably about the same.

I'm looking to do the same thing - buy an external hard drive for backup.  I just watched some infomercial on the shopping channel that was trying to sell one called ClickFree or something like that which was only a 250GB drive for $150 which just seems like utter craziness.

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:33 am 
 

Mars wrote:
Its funny because I would probably recommend the Western Digital drive over the Seagate one :)  I have owned a few of each - most are still kicking around but the one drive that went on me was a Seagate.  I think both companies are probably about the same.

I'm looking to do the same thing - buy an external hard drive for backup.  I just watched some infomercial on the shopping channel that was trying to sell one called ClickFree or something like that which was only a 250GB drive for $150 which just seems like utter craziness.


I know other people that swear by Western Digital as well.  Their internal hard drives are fine....never had a problem with them.  Its the external ones I dont care for.  I dont think the housing is as well made as the Seagate models.  I only owned one external Western Digital drive and it up and died after about a year.  A friend of mine had one that broke when it fell about 12 inches onto his desk.  The plastic housing cracked and the hard drive just stopped working.  Several months ago I accidentally dropped one of my Seagate external drives about four feet onto a hard surface and it still works just as well as it did out of the box.  IMO they just seem to be sturdier.

I dont worry too much about off-site backup....I dont have any financial or critical files on my computer.  I do have a fire-proof safe though and any time we are away from the house for an extended period I put stuff in it such as my external drives.


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:57 pm 
 

Having spent a number of years servicing computers with failed hard drives, it is my experience that Seagate drives are more reliable than WD and much more than Maxtor.

The only recent series of Seagates that had a higher failure rate than normal was their 1 TB drives. The 500 GB and the 1.5 TB are excellent.


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:03 pm 
 

jasonw1239 wrote:Having spent a number of years servicing computers with failed hard drives, it is my experience that Seagate drives are more reliable than WD and much more than Maxtor.

The only recent series of Seagates that had a higher failure rate than normal was their 1 TB drives. The 500 GB and the 1.5 TB are excellent.


Good thing I decided to spend the extra $20 for the 1.5 TB drive then eh?  And you dont have to worry about Maxtor anymore.  Seagate bought them out some time ago.


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:17 pm 
 

Kingofpain89 wrote:
Good thing I decided to spend the extra $20 for the 1.5 TB drive then eh?  And you dont have to worry about Maxtor anymore.  Seagate bought them out some time ago.

There are still some small independent shops (not many) that still have Maxtors on their shelf.
Just a reminder that with low prices on computer parts you sometimes get what you pay for.

EDIT: P.S. Nice usage of "eh"  :lol:


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Post Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:00 am 
 

Ok, I checked all the online reviews.  Western Digital gets horrific marks due to it's new "Smartware" which is not smart, since most people who buy the drives hate the fuck out of it. Seagate only scores moderately better. The best reviewed drives I found were Iomegas.  Anyone have any experience with one of these?

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Post Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:52 am 
 

Agree about the WD "Smartware".  I have a 1T WD.  Finally got it to quit interrogating me.  I do like the pretty blue light that blinks back and forth in a very satisfying "Danger Will Robinson" manner, though. I also have a smaller SimpleDrive that I have dragged all over the place for a couple of years and never had any problems with.


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Post Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:20 am 
 

Badmike wrote:Ok, I checked all the online reviews.  Western Digital gets horrific marks due to it's new "Smartware" which is not smart, since most people who buy the drives hate the fuck out of it. Seagate only scores moderately better. The best reviewed drives I found were Iomegas.  Anyone have any experience with one of these?

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I havent used an Iomega product since the Zip and Jaz drives.  That was probably back in 2000 or '01.  Heck I didnt even know they still existed since I never see any of their product anymore.  :wink:

I did a cursory glance at their external desktop drive and they only offer a 90 day limited warranty.  The Seagate external drive I have has a five year limited warranty.  It doesnt cover data loss but that is to be expected.


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