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Post Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:32 pm 
 

Rakeesh sah Tarna wrote:fighting wheel  
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The fighting wheel is one of those items that I cannot bring my self to want.  I know they are rare and collectable but what is wrong with a few dice(die)? :?:

  

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Post Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:57 pm 
 

simonmwh wrote:The fighting wheel is one of those items that I cannot bring my self to want.  I know they are rare and collectable but what is wrong with a few dice(die)? :?:

would need very small print to put hit tables on those :) :) http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/miscpag ... front.html

  

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Post Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 2:59 pm 
 

I think both of these constitute interesting (or at least rare) items, but I wasn't sure if they belonged more on the ridiculous price thread:



Dungeoneers Survival Guide with Dark and Hidden Ways:




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Hex Pad in shrink:




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Both are currently at $155 (same bidder for each), with time to go.



That price is quite a bit higher than the prices listed in the Acaeum index.  Are they out of line?  Or are the prices for moderate rares now seeing an increase (hard to imagine, given the economic meltdown)?


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Post Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:55 pm 
 

Bracton wrote:That price is quite a bit higher than the prices listed in the Acaeum index.  Are they out of line?  Or are the prices for moderate rares now seeing an increase (hard to imagine, given the economic meltdown)?

shrink fans have money?? :) :) answer is degassy but needs one other always

  


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Post Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:33 pm 
 

Shutting out the world, shame really


I've often wondered why so many U.S. sellers refuse to ship outside the U.S.  Ignorance?  Laziness?  A combination of the two?  If you can learn how to list something on ebay I wouldn't think learning how to ship Internationally would be that big a leap.

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Post Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:10 pm 
 

I wonder where this guy stole his item description from?



http://cgi.ebay.com/D-D-Palace-of-the-V ... dZViewItem



He also stole one of his photos (a stock photo) from Troll and Toad's auction.  As for the rest of the photos....well they speak for themselves.  :?


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Post Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:04 pm 
 

I will put two pieces of cardboard in the package so as to insure that there is no bending.

optimist there as well :) :)

  

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Post Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:55 am 
 

Kingofpain89 wrote:I wonder where this guy stole his item description from?


** expired/removed eBay auction **


He also stole one of his photos (a stock photo) from Troll and Toad's auction.  As for the rest of the photos....well they speak for themselves.  :?




Listing removed, I guess someone blew the whistle on him.


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Post Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:41 am 
 

ok, not in a collectable shape but still with no bids (and only 3h to go!):




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Post Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:01 pm 
 

napoleonsdad wrote:
I've often wondered why so many U.S. sellers refuse to ship outside the U.S.  Ignorance?  Laziness?  A combination of the two?  If you can learn how to list something on ebay I wouldn't think learning how to ship Internationally would be that big a leap.


Reasons:

•        It's more difficult to do.
•        Overseas buyers tend to rip off U.S. sellers more than domestic buyers.
•        Items get damaged more frequently and it's a hassle to deal with.
•        Items get lost more often, especially going to Italy (I don't know why this is...)
•        Your prior comments as well.

  

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Post Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:00 pm 
 

dbartman wrote:
Reasons:

•        It's more difficult to do.
•        Overseas buyers tend to rip off U.S. sellers more than domestic buyers.
•        Items get damaged more frequently and it's a hassle to deal with.
•        Items get lost more often, especially going to Italy (I don't know why this is...)
•        Your prior comments as well.


Cost and not wanting to take a gamble. If you use paypal then you need tracking, if you don't have it a lost package or a package reported as lost is the sellers responsibility and you lose the money and the items. I get emailed all the time by buyers asking the cost to ship something internationally, and unless I take the package down to the post office and get it weighed and quoted I can't give them an accurate estimate. I do try to give a general estimate, or at least I did, but what I end up with is a waste of my time and some nasty emails about me trying to rip them off with expensive shipping. At this point I don't even answer the emails anymore. I ship internationally to a couple of people from here and that is it. Unless I know someone I won't ship outside the USA. It isn't about laziness, or any crap like that, it's because of the bad mail systems in some countries, the huge cost of shipping with tracking and the gamble on negative feedback after a package has been massively delayed, damaged or lost. Professional companies and sellers can take the losses or the negative feedback and some sellers don't mind gambling. I'm in this to clean out my office/guest bedroom and for some fun money and having some fun in the process because I like selling stuff. Angry and nasty emails from international buyers or worrying about a package getting lost, stolen or damaged is not fun. I don't do it.

  

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Post Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:08 pm 
 

dbartman wrote:
Reasons:

•        It's more difficult to do.
•        Overseas buyers tend to rip off U.S. sellers more than domestic buyers.
•        Items get damaged more frequently and it's a hassle to deal with.
•        Items get lost more often, especially going to Italy (I don't know why this is...)


These are the kind of reasons I can't understand...

- Is it more than simple to put books in an international priority flat rate envelope or box and to fill a simple custom form (even a child would know how to do it)
- I don't think that international buyers are more dishonest than US. I had as many problems with US sellers/buyers than with UK or french ones.
- if the seller do his job correctly, no items should be damaged. Any time sellers take care to the packaging, items arrrived always in perfect shape. It is just because sellers put the book in the envelope and in the mail, without any protection that books are damaged.
- Italy, mafia, that's all :) Mafia wants to put their hands on D&D collectible market  :twisted:  :twisted:

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Post Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:22 pm 
 

I personally don't have too many issues shipping items internationally and have bought quite a few international items as well with very few problems. The reasons I stated are typical reasons/excuses that I've seen people use.  I also think that some of the resistance might be due to an unwillingness to deal with the added complexity.

I will agree that the reasons mentioned can all be valid either way.  

Generally I do tend to lose more money on items that I send overseas due to packaging, handling and shipping costs being more than was accounted for.

  


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Post Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:30 am 
 

lokiwookie wrote:
I had as many problems with US sellers/buyers than with UK or french ones.


I have had loads of problems with US sellers - three parcel no-shows in the last two months and lots of incredibly late stuff (none from an Acaeum member though - have never had a bad exchange with anyone here:o))  And although of course I know that people are people everywhere, it does start to make you think twice about what you bid on, or how high you will go.  I do wonder that when I am sending emails to the people who have ripped me off, asking where my purchase is, part of their lack of response is predicated on the fact that there is a big ocean between me and them.  And as dbartman said, these reasons can all be valid either way - I think about some of the slow UK sellers I have bought form and I wonder just how slow (or non-existent) they would be if I wasn't in the same country, but 4,000 miles away...

So I am a little sympathetic with people who want to keep their ebay-ing local.  Besides, it is their choice  :D


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Post Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:32 am 
 

napoleonsdad wrote:I've often wondered why so many U.S. sellers refuse to ship outside the U.S.  Ignorance?  Laziness?  A combination of the two?  If you can learn how to list something on ebay I wouldn't think learning how to ship Internationally would be that big a leap.

I think buyers need to accept that they have to pay for international shipping, and that in most countries PayPal requires tracking to be paid for to comply with its rules. All costs should be bourne by the buyer, and if the buyer argues about that, then they're an asshole plain and simple. Sellers need to be firm with buyers, and in my experience of eBay (which is pretty extensive) most of the American sellers I come accross that don't ship outside of the US, don't do so because they fear everyone beyond the US border will steal from them, regardless of the protection offered by Paypal and the amount of good feedback the buyer has.

So in my opinion, it is a combination of good old fashioned belief that the world stops at the US coastline, and the many asshole buyers who refuse to pick up the full cost of shipping in a safe and secure manner abroad.

Both are problems which appear to be a result of poor intelligence on the part of buyer/seller, so when you come accross a seller who won't ship abroad, or a buyer who asks you to remove tracking, you can make instant assessments af their relative intelligence level and background.


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Post Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:14 am 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:I think buyers need to accept that they have to pay for international shipping, and that in most countries PayPal requires tracking to be paid for to comply with its rules. All costs should be bourne by the buyer, and if the buyer argues about that, then they're an asshole plain and simple. Sellers need to be firm with buyers, and in my experience of eBay (which is pretty extensive) most of the American sellers I come accross that don't ship outside of the US, don't do so because they fear everyone beyond the US border will steal from them, regardless of the protection offered by Paypal and the amount of good feedback the buyer has.

So in my opinion, it is a combination of good old fashioned belief that the world stops at the US coastline, and the many asshole buyers who refuse to pick up the full cost of shipping in a safe and secure manner abroad.

Both are problems which appear to be a result of poor intelligence on the part of buyer/seller, so when you come accross a seller who won't ship abroad, or a buyer who asks you to remove tracking, you can make instant assessments af their relative intelligence level and background.


People really want to make money and it makes great sense to sell worldwide. I'd do it at the drop of a hat if I didn't have to take a gamble with shipping outside the USA. The expense puts me off. The cheapest tracked shipping starts at $17 unless I'm missing something on the USPS website. But everytime I've asked buyers to show me where the cheaper tracked shipping is listed they don't reply or talk about prioirty envelopes.

The priority envelope is a good price, but it is a freaken' envelope and outside of lining it with steel plates you are gambling that it isn't going to get its corners crushed or bent. A package I received recently was as well packed as anything I've seen, but one of the corners was still bent on the items inside (tiny, tiny little ding, but makes it harder to sell).

I ship things in boxes, plastic around everything inside and padded down with either bubble wrap or newspaper. (I hate those packing peanuts with a vengeance). I've shipped in envelopes at the buyers request but it always makes me nervous.

  

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:46 am 
 

My pennys worth.....I sell domestic and worldwide and haven't had a loss or problems yet and I never track items.  As long as you stick to names you recognise you are more often than not ok.  Even if the odd one goes missing then the extra money gained from worldwide auctions more than makes up for it.

  

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:52 pm 
 

simonmwh wrote:My pennys worth.....I sell domestic and worldwide and haven't had a loss or problems yet and I never track items.  As long as you stick to names you recognise you are more often than not ok.  Even if the odd one goes missing then the extra money gained from worldwide auctions more than makes up for it.


There is a big difference between selling to strangers on ebay and selling to people you know.

  
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