Hi,

I'm really starting to get the impression that Wavemotion is attempting to undermine this website.

He really is just a troll in a pink tutu with a fairy crown.

Do not feed him.

Cheers,
Malc

Kingofpain89 wrote:
 No reason to fix something that isnt broken.  There may be a few errors here or there and it may not be updated as often as some people prefer but there still isnt a site that has as much detailed information about the subject as The Acaeum.

These are two contradictory statements.  

The paradigm of single-editor has been repudiated with Wikipedia.

I'm not asking for flashiness, but I am asking for something that is updated more than once a year and doesn't have the organizational quality of an acid trip.

kflame wrote:
These are two contradictory statements.  

The paradigm of single-editor has been repudiated with Wikipedia.

I'm not asking for flashiness, but I am asking for something that is updated more than once a year and doesn't have the organizational quality of an acid trip.

What usually happens is that a find is brought up, it is thoroughly discussed, and then after a period of time when all have been heard from the change is made.

Wikipedia? You gotta be kidding. The multiple idiot, errr, editor paradigm there is a joke. Or you get what you get on Wikipedia, which are mistakes now going on several years in the entries of Gary Gygax, D&D, etc. but that are unable to be corrected due to editorial mischief. Sounds like a great system there.
Single editor can preserve a clarity of vision, and help head off mistakes before they are reported.

It would be nice to have more updates but it isn't my site.  I never have any trouble finding anything here so unsure what you meant about the acid trip.

Mike B.

Mike, save your typing muscles.  The guy started bashing the Acaeum with his very first post and clearly hasn't anything useful to add.  It'd be great if we had a fantasy creature that described such a poster in a metaphorical manner, eh?

sauromatian wrote:It's worth noting that 99% of the time, Badmike is the one DEFENDING newcomers to the forum against unprovoked attack.

Someone once, defending their right/claim to post here, noted that they played D&D forever & so did not deserve to be treated as an outcast. Another member countered that newbies often make such claims, & concluded that it must be a sign of trolldom.

When the Acaeum drives newcomers away, which happens with sickening regularity, naturally the outcasts will start sites of their own. Hence, BGG's new RPG section.

No one owns my memories of playing or collecting D&D - not Hasbro, not the Acaeum, not anyone. If the Acaeum continues to behave like it does, it is doomed to sink into obscurity.

It is obvious with the explosion of new sites we will get new visitors here. Those that understand what we are about are welcomed with open arms; those that drop bombs and beg for a whipping will get it.  Hell, IM NOT EVEN THE MEAN GUY ON THE SITE!!!  Other guys do that far better than I do     I've never attacked anyone that didn't roll into here with excessive hostility and pumped up geek muscles hoping to "take down the old guard" or whatever.  I can think of lots of newcomers to the site that have been welcomed and contributed in the last year or so. It's a question of attitude really.  And I don't mean "Kiss our ass" I mean "understand what we are doing here" and roll with it.  Sure your grandpa is an old tool cause he still listens to 45s and won't burn them onto a cd, likes homemade steaks on the charcoal instead of ones cooked on the $1000 propane cooker, and he fishes with an old rod and reel and not the latest computerized whachamacallit but what of it?  The old guy is still a hoot to hang with...

As I stated, go to a ST:OS site and start spouting off about how Kirk is a pussy and Picard could kick his ass.  You think we are reactionary here? Sheesh. You ever been to a military memorabilia site? The ugliest might be the comic book fandom.  Throw down with an uber nerd that thinks nothing the XMen did after Byrne and Claremont left is worth spit if you want to see some real screaming and frothing.

If you don't understand how tribes work and come here pissing and moaning that the site doesn't have bells and whistles, how can you expect anything but a beat down? This is a far cry from hammering down some poor guy who just comes here expecting to wax nostalgic about his old white box and find out how much it is worth.  I doubt you'll find any of those the last couple years.

Dave and I have solved our issues offline.  A case of he said something in a way I didn't appreciate and I replied with a surfeit of emotion.  Case Closed. I hope he stays. Kflame seems to be here for a certain purpose....can't quite put my finger on it...but yeh I probably shouldn't have risen to the bait.

BTW nice to see you again Sauro, where ya been? Sauro, RPG Geek wasn't formed by disgrunted Acaeum users, it's a spinoff of BG Geek and would have existed whether we closed up shop or not.  Its a money making venture with some potential and far deeper pockets than here and a far wider focus. Blaming their existence on our crotchety ways is missing the point.

Mike B.

wavemotion wrote:I'm on the ropes!

Hey, Dave, whatever happened to doing that the other way around and asking if four righteous people could be found to support your staying rather than getting nuked from the heavens.

(Not that that's the best analogy ever, I suspect ^^)

Badmike wrote:Agenda: this. Now, saying someone has an agenda isn't really insulting, just noting the fact that some of their posts may swing a certain way.  I've certainly got an agenda, Zavoda has an agenda, King has an agenda, etc.  Anyway my point being you seem to be the guy who always posts when something is found "wrong" on the site with the "See, I told you guys the site isn't as accurate/up to date as it could/should be". Nothing offense about it, but tell me I'm wrong here David.

Sheesh... gotcha now, Mike.
No, I gave up on that "agenda" to /actively/ push for improvements on the data quality as presented on the site's non-forum pages many years ago. Thanks for clarifying; too many nebulous unspecified crimes floating around as it is! There's far greater general benefit for effort to be found elsewhere; not least on Wikipedia, for example, where it /is/ possible to make a difference with persistence and a thick skin. It wouldn't take more than 6-8 people here to steamroller through pretty much any errors that needed fixing since I appear to be able to do that in the majority of cases myself. For example; Dave Arneson's page, too, had many more errors before I gave that a comprehensive tidy-up, just about in time to prevent the newspapers publishing /too/ many erroneous details.

Anyhow; enough thread drift from here and not really helping, above. Oops...
Still waiting for the more complex correction request I'd sent through on RPGG to be processed, too.

Thanks,
David.

Badmike wrote: where ya been?

I've been another economic casualty, with an income dropping consistently for the past year. The last things of note I collected were nice copies of Chaosium's Perilous Encounters & AH's Wizard's Quest. In both cases, I won the auctions for $5 apiece because no one else had the money to bid (they should have gone for twice the amount at least). That was 7 or 8 months ago - after that I joined the ranks of the penniless. From the declining forum traffic in this period, I take it that many are in the same situation.

If there's an upside to it all, it's that the great ages of gaming have taken place in recessions: the stagflation/oil shock of 1973-74, & the rust-belt collapse of 79-83 come to mind right off the bat; later declines were accompanied by more games as well. Maybe society seeks escapism. When the Help Wanted signs go down, maybe the Adventurers Wanted signs go up.

sauromatian wrote:The last things of note .. .AH's Wizard's Quest.

Can't go wrong with Wizard's Quest. Play occassionally with my kids who have graduated from Fantasy Forest to Dungeon! and now WQ. Next up, Axis & Allies!!!

sauromatian wrote:
I've been another economic casualty, with an income dropping consistently for the past year. The last things of note I collected were nice copies of Chaosium's Perilous Encounters & AH's Wizard's Quest. In both cases, I won the auctions for $5 apiece because no one else had the money to bid (they should have gone for twice the amount at least). That was 7 or 8 months ago - after that I joined the ranks of the penniless. From the declining forum traffic in this period, I take it that many are in the same situation.

If there's an upside to it all, it's that the great ages of gaming have taken place in recessions: the stagflation/oil shock of 1973-74, & the rust-belt collapse of 79-83 come to mind right off the bat; later declines were accompanied by more games as well. Maybe society seeks escapism. When the Help Wanted signs go down, maybe the Adventurers Wanted signs go up.

Seems to be the case this time also with the emergence of the Retro Clones, et al.  Great thing about RPGs is when you buy the rulebook you need not every make another purchase, which makes them one of the best bangs for the buck. Hopefully 2010 will be better for you.  Check out the NTRPG Con site if you have a few bucks by this summer.

Mike B.

http://www.ntrpgcon.com/