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Post Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:49 pm 
 

grodog wrote:If anyone here ever has to go through this process in the future, I can certainly help you from my POV and experience!

Hard-won experience, yass....
At least that worked out for you elsewhere but certainly not something I'd wish to go through. Sucking up to $ "lost" from postal damage, clueless sellers who don't mean any harm, etc., is one thing but this is an out-and-out unpleasant case of deliberate deception in that auction description and follow-up questions.

grodog wrote:He's certainly not someone I or anyone else should consider buying from.

More than enough buyers around who ain't here to be forewarned - once he finally gives in and pays for the box to be sent back, I guess.


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Post Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:44 pm 
 

Allan, here's what to do:

Keep track of the time the package spends at your place. If and when he asks for it back, you charge him a storage fee and do not ship it back until he pays. You are allowed to do that.
As far as police involvement, he is setting himself up for jail time and hefty fines, PLUS restitution if you decide to take him to court. He is perpetrating fraud, it seems.


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Post Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:11 pm 
 

Badmike wrote:I wouldn't contact his police dept; it's an absolute waste of time.
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I totally agree.  Let sleeping dogs lie.  The onus is completely on him to get his money back or woodie back or whatever.  And I wouldn't have any patience with him communicating with you either.  You are done with him.  And if you haven't blocked him from bidding on anything you might sell, I'd recommend that.  You never want to cross paths with this turkey again.  I'm glad things have gone so well in your favor. :)


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Post Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:32 pm 
 

If the seller has rejected receipt of you sending it back, then it belongs to you. Sell it.


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Post Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:58 pm 
 

serleran wrote:If the seller has rejected receipt of you sending it back, then it belongs to you. Sell it.


I would make one last ditch attempt to contact him or his PD to say that that you want to send it back but it was refused...

Then it's yours.


Hey, I'll give you $50 and a really nice DCC#51 for it



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Post Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:37 pm 
 

Well, hopefully this saga is finally over:  the seller complained to Paypal toward the end of October, and Paypal got in touch with me and sent me money to ship the set back to the seller.  I finally had time to do that on Saturday, and hopefully this'll be over and done with now.

We'll see.  I had a great clerk at UPS Store, and she and I entered the details on what books were being shipped back (with some annotated comments on missing pages, 1st GH price not struck through, etc.).  Hopefully that's the end of this saga, but I'm not holding my breath.  If things take another turn, I'll let everyone know ;)

David:  unfortunately I forgot again to measure the 1st GH before handing it off to UPS :(  If it bounces back my way again, however, I'll certainly do so.


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:48 pm 
 

And, at long last, the seller has managed to accept the box back, on the 2nd delivery attempt in the 2nd return.  

Huzzah!  :D


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:56 pm 
 

grodog wrote:And, at long last, the seller has managed to accept the box back, on the 2nd delivery attempt in the 2nd return.  

Huzzah!  :D

So good you posted it twice, Allan?! Hurrah!! :D

The concept of a freebie woodgrain is one thing, perhaps, but better that that's "sorted" properly. Fingers crossed that no-one else is burned quite so badly...

Ah; no probs on the measurement for the 1st print GH: I'm still fairly sure that's a normal copy they just forgot to amend, given the approximate measurement provided by the seller was near as could be to the regular issue. (I guess I'd better dig out some copies to show what I mean sometime, rather than just talking numbers).

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:43 pm 
 

Perhaps I spoke too soon:  it sounds like the seller's trying to say that I struck the price through on the 1st GH before sending it back  :roll:

Fortunately, I had the UPS Store clerk validate all of the contents and enter them into their electronic shipping manifest, including the fact that the $1.75 was not struck through  8)


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:00 pm 
 

grodog wrote:Perhaps I spoke too soon:  it sounds like the seller's trying to say that I struck the price through on the 1st GH before sending it back  :roll:

Fortunately, I had the UPS Store clerk validate all of the contents and enter them into their electronic shipping manifest, including the fact that the $1.75 was not struck through  8)


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:06 am 
 

Asshole is a bit more accurate. I'm all for fair play, but I think after the first attempt, I'd have kept it.


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:03 am 
 

grodog wrote:Perhaps I spoke too soon:  it sounds like the seller's trying to say that I struck the price through on the 1st GH before sending it back  :roll:

Hmm... you have told them you're considering legal action against them for that nice attempt to get you stitched up, I trust?

grodog wrote:Fortunately, I had the UPS Store clerk validate all of the contents and enter them into their electronic shipping manifest, including the fact that the $1.75 was not struck through  8)

Allan; I don't think I'd've been as careful as that. Kudos. :)

(The only bright side is that if they've now /actually/ gone and struck through the price on that copy, they've neatly slit their own throat given that they claimed they already had someone lined up who would pay $1,500 for that alone... or some such wibble. [/sarcasm])

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