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Post Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:13 pm 
 

Keith the Thief wrote:So, is CZ:UW even available from TLG anymore?
Quick skim of their website didn't show anything.

And I've been reading grodog's review of CZ:UW and his thoughts on Castle Greyhawk.  
Appears that, research-wise, I've opened a can of worms for myself.
Luckily I need the protein.


Not available from TLG. A few months after Gary passed, Gygax Games was formed. Its immediate action was to sever ties with all the writers and publishers Gary worked with and trusted. Who Gygax Games elects to work with in the future is something I can not speculate on. I have heard reports that all of Gary's notes have been provided to a film maker who is also a role-playing game enthusiast. This fellow's game is called Secret Fire. I don't know much about this game, and I don't know the author. I have read a few excerpts that I found distasteful.

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Post Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:19 pm 
 

The city supplement list is accurate. The other titles (noted below as CZ3 to CZ7) were placeholders and working titles created early on, long before I was part of the project. Because the format changed over from hardback to box set, and because we were working toward the whole of the project being contained in 3 boxes, those titles and those codes were going to change.

TheHistorian wrote:Somewhere out there I dug up a list of what the other CZ supplements were to have been:

CZ3: The Dungeons
CZ4: The Deeps
CZ5: Chambers Of Stone
CZ6: A Lightless Lake
CZ7: Zagyg's Way
CZ8: ?
CZ14: Citadel End
CZ15: Grand Temple & College District
CZ16: Bhurghers' Quarter
CZ17: Gray Friars
CZ18: Bridgegate Markets
CZ19: High Gardens
CZ20: Jewel District
CZ21: Rivergate Quarter
CZ22: The Dargs
CZ23: West Market Sector
CZ24: The Rakes
CZ25: The Manors
CZ26: Gaming District
CZ27: Workmen's Sector
CZ28: Mixed Company District
CZ29: Riverman's Town
CZ30: East Road & The Insiders
CZ31: The Mills & Scalesbank
CZ32: Hookton, The Five Farms, & Y's Cemetary
CZ33: Watergate Bridge & Newtown

So the question is two parts:

1. Can you confirm that list was accurate?
2. Do you know what CZ8 was to be?

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Post Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:22 pm 
 

The titles listed above were for expansions of the City of Yggsburgh.

Yggsburgh was a separate project from Castle Zagyg and the dungeons below them.

Somewhere here on the Acaeum is my review of the Yggsburgh publication.  I discussed the hardback book project and I believe I might have listed the books that were supposed to follow the first book.


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Post Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:42 pm 
 

FormCritic wrote:The titles listed above were for expansions of the City of Yggsburgh.

Yggsburgh was a separate project from Castle Zagyg and the dungeons below them.

Somewhere here on the Acaeum is my review of the Yggsburgh publication.  I discussed the hardback book project and I believe I might have listed the books that were supposed to follow the first book.


Your review is here:
http://www.acaeum.com/forum/viewtopic.phpt=4137&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=zagyg&start=40

and some additional commentary here:
http://www.acaeum.com/forum/viewtopic.phpt=5856&start=60

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Post Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:45 pm 
 

Ghul wrote:The city supplement list is accurate. The other titles (noted below as CZ3 to CZ7) were placeholders and working titles created early on, long before I was part of the project. Because the format changed over from hardback to box set, and because we were working toward the whole of the project being contained in 3 boxes, those titles and those codes were going to change.


Good information - thank you!


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Post Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:13 pm 
 



Neither link appears to work.    :?:


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Post Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:46 pm 
 

FormCritic wrote:
Neither link appears to work.    :?:


Hmmm.
Well, what I did was search all topics and posts for "Yggsburgh".
I use an iPad, and obviously messed up on the copy-n-paste.
Sorry about that.

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:45 pm 
 

I just bought a copy of "Gaxmoor" (TLG setting) for $9.
Looking forward to reading it.

Still scratching my head over whether to shell out bucks for a megadungeon.
I write fiction, and I use D&D material for ideas...

Regarding my "Greyhawk" hunt, I am having an oddly difficult time finding affordable copies of G1, G2, and G3 (mono).  Any suggestions?

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:01 pm 
 

Keith the Thief wrote:Regarding my "Greyhawk" hunt, I am having an oddly difficult time finding affordable copies of G1, G2, and G3 (mono).  Any suggestions?


Patience.  You can get what you want at decent price if you are just patient.  I'm sure you know how to add items to your "Saved Searches."  That helps with the few items I'd like to acquire.  The quicker you want it, usually the more you'll pay.   8)


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Post Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:22 pm 
 

Keith---

If you're just looking for mono versions to play with/read, then I'm happy to sell/trade some duplicates; if you want minty 1st printings then I can't help you....


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Post Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:31 am 
 

benjoshua wrote:
Patience.  You can get what you want at decent price if you are just patient.  I'm sure you know how to add items to your "Saved Searches."  That helps with the few items I'd like to acquire.  The quicker you want it, usually the more you'll pay.   8)


eBay has been oddly difficult lately.  
It's been a couple of years since I've done any real shopping there.

And ...  yeah .... I know how to save searches.
But I invariably wind up looking at seller LMNOP's star ratings rather than their items.


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Post Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:32 am 
 

grodog wrote:Keith---

If you're just looking for mono versions to play with/read, then I'm happy to sell/trade some duplicates; if you want minty 1st printings then I can't help you....


I'll send you a message ...

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:26 am 
 

FormCritic wrote:When these slots are filled (and variations added) it is tough to come up with a place for yet another gibberling, and how is a svart supposed to fit into the picture?  What you get is a folio of one-shot freaks like the absorber, mudman, osquip, magic sniffer, lizard king, magmite and their ilk...including the ever-useful flumpf and blindheim.



On the other hand, real life is even weirder: http://www.cinemablend.com/pop/Albino-C ... 36173.html

  

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:10 am 
 

I focused on finishing my FASA collection and ending the long hunt for Shadowrun and Earthdawn. Not interested in the novels, but I know they have game material (at least 'universe') but they're not my thing.


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:18 am 
 

serleran wrote:Not interested in the novels, but I know they have game material (at least 'universe') but they're not my thing.


Neither novels nor miniatures are of interest to me, either.
I read a couple of the D&D novels (I think they were Greyhawk) but the quality just wasn't there.
I'd prefer to stick with the gaming material.


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:29 pm 
 

Gygax's Gord the Rogue novels were OK. Not great, but decent.


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:02 pm 
 

RaisedFromTheDead wrote:Gygax's Gord the Rogue novels were OK. Not great, but decent.


I reckon I'm kinda, sorta what you might call a snob when it comes to novels :-/
Which is a lousy way to be.

But I've written fiction as a hobby for years (I even have a novel out for Kindle and Nook), so ...
I have this tendency to nit-pick characters, plot, setting, etc.

The best fantasy novel I've read in years and years is A Game of Thrones by George R.R. Martin.  
It's incredibly good.  Well worth your time if you haven't read it.

As a fantasy RPG guy, it's kind of strange that I don't really like the fantasy fiction genre.


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:34 pm 
 

Keith the Thief wrote:
I reckon I'm kinda, sorta what you might call a snob when it comes to novels :-/
Which is a lousy way to be.

But I've written fiction as a hobby for years (I even have a novel out for Kindle and Nook), so ...
I have this tendency to nit-pick characters, plot, setting, etc.

The best fantasy novel I've read in years and years is A Game of Thrones by George R.R. Martin.  
It's incredibly good.  Well worth your time if you haven't read it.

As a fantasy RPG guy, it's kind of strange that I don't really like the fantasy fiction genre.


Wow, I'd say A Game of Thrones was a badly constructed piece of crap. Gygax's novels have some great elements in them, and some real awful parts as well. Some of the dialogue is cringe worthy, but the books themselves are invaluable as source material for a Greyhawk campaign. Sea of Death presents the City out of Mind in such a way that it begs to be worked into a module. In a similar way, A Game of Thrones has some excellent ideas, but the novel is excruciating and repugnant.

There are some great fantasy novels out there. The Appendix N suggestions cover a good number of them.


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