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Post Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:01 pm 
 

You can currently do that with the UK site, so one can only assume that it will be making its way to the other sites eventually given their usual status as new features guinea pigs.



(Until then, changing the URL from ebay.com to ebay.co.uk lets you check them out via the feedback page.)


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:07 pm 
 

I don't have much of an opinion yet about the changes, but I think one thing is being overlooked:



Xaxaxe wrote:
Plus, as mentioned, there are times when flexibility is a good thing. Valuable media-related items probably should be shipped Priority, which is more sturdy, offers free delivery confirmation, and gets the item to the buyer much sooner. Hell, many buyers want their stuff sooner, and are happy to pay $5 for a quick, reliable form of shipping that has a much greater chance of protecting their first-edition book or whatever.




eBay still allows for that:



"These maximums apply to the first flat-rate shipping service within or into the U.S. Sellers are required to offer at least one shipping option within the maximum and may also offer other options above the maximums for expedited or international shipping."



From here:

http://pages.ebay.com/sell/August2008Up ... entBuyers/



So I don't see why you'd be precluded from also offering a higher-cost shipping method that's costlier because uses more materials to protect the product. You just have to include at least one shipping method that's cheap too.

  

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:12 pm 
 

Afraid of the Dark wrote:I don't have much of an opinion yet about the changes, but I think one thing is being overlooked:



eBay still allows for that:

"These maximums apply to the first flat-rate shipping service within or into the U.S. Sellers are required to offer at least one shipping option within the maximum and may also offer other options above the maximums for expedited or international shipping."

From here:
http://pages.ebay.com/sell/August2008Up ... entBuyers/

So I don't see why you'd be precluded from also offering a higher-cost shipping method that's costlier because uses more materials to protect the product. You just have to include at least one shipping method that's cheap too.




AOTD is correct.  And I've been working out a spiel that will suggest just that to my ebay buyers, WITHOUT violating their injunctions.  For example, I have a large record collection I'm going to be selling soon.  I ship in priority boxes to avoid damage.  The reimbursment for records will be $3.  I will continue to ship in priority boxes, offering that as a "speedy alternative" to media mail.  Here is an example snippet:



"I will ship record albums by priority or media mail   Priority shipping will be in a well padded priority box and I will guarantee it's condition up to a full refund if it does not arrive in the condition it was listed.  Media mail shipments of record albums will be in a plain paper non-padded envelope and will take up to three weeks to arrive; thus I CANNOT guarantee it will arrive in the same condition it is sent or indeed in any sort of playable condition. Thanks!"  



I plan on doing one of those for my more valuable/collectible hardbacks also.  The great thing about Ebay, it's like out-thinking a herd of emus or something to do what you want anyway.



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Post Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:17 pm 
 

Out of curiosity, how do I see a seller's (most importantly: my) numerical DSR.

On my My World page and my feedback profile page, I see the partially-filled stars, but I don't see a way to get the actual numbers.


One thing I'm concerned about is that a buyer of two items can take a perfect DSR of a new seller, and (accidentally or vindictively) make it drop below the 4.3 threshold, thus preventing the seller from selling for up to a year.

I suppose that's what the appeals process is for, but I'm in a more fragile state.

I'm only an occasional seller, with 11 DSR ratings total. Right now my shipping and handling is rated just over 4.5.

I knowingly brought that onto myself when I sold my last batch of stuff, and I even mentioned the fact that I wasn't willing to compromise on slow shipping in the auction descriptions purely for my own convenience. After all:

a) As an occasional seller of niche stuff, the DSR-based list orderings aren't particularly relevant to me, and

b) Inferior ordering was the only drawback for my actions.

Now I'm potentially being retroactively punished for my actions. That's kind of like changing the speed limit on Friday from 60 to 50 mph and then giving me a speeding ticket for last Monday when I was (at that point legally) driving at 55 mph.

  

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:17 pm 
 

lawrenson wrote:Hi,

actually, my biggest gripe on Ebay is those sellers who rip you off for postage.

So maximum postage charges seems quite good to me.

But then, I mainly buy, not sell.

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Malc, the problem I see is that you really aren't paying cheaper prices. Ebay specifically states to just move the shipping/handling charges straight to your sale price.  All this changes is that ebay will be making more money as right now they get no piece of shipping costs, only FVF costs.  So, instead of a SW M5 for $40 and $6 shipping, you'll be getting it for $47 with $3 shipping.  The new policy doesn't make anything cheaper, quite the opposite.

Honestly, I'm not going to make a dollar less, and neither will a lot of online retailers. Look at what Titan games prices have done with their "free" shipping......raised their prices across the board.

Even worse, the shipping decree specifically leaves out international buyers, so if you buy something from the US the same price gouging will be in effect.

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Afraid of the Dark wrote:Out of curiosity, how do I see a seller's (most importantly: my) numerical DSR.

On my My World page and my feedback profile page, I see the partially-filled stars, but I don't see a way to get the actual numbers.


One thing I'm concerned about is that a buyer of two items can take a perfect DSR of a new seller, and (accidentally or vindictively) make it drop below the 4.3 threshold, thus preventing the seller from selling for up to a year.

I suppose that's what the appeals process is for, but I'm in a more fragile state.

I'm only an occasional seller, with 11 DSR ratings total. Right now my shipping and handling is rated just over 4.5.

I knowingly brought that onto myself when I sold my last batch of stuff, and I even mentioned the fact that I wasn't willing to compromise on slow shipping in the auction descriptions purely for my own convenience. After all:

a) As an occasional seller of niche stuff, the DSR-based list orderings aren't particularly relevant to me, and

b) Inferior ordering was the only drawback for my actions.

Now I'm potentially being retroactively punished for my actions. That's kind of like changing the speed limit on Friday from 60 to 50 mph and then giving me a speeding ticket for last Monday when I was (at that point legally) driving at 55 mph.


AOTD, I'd try one of these methods:  Sell a large amount of cheap items for the express purpose of pumping up your DSRS (say, a bunch of single plastic WOTC minis, or dice, or single discounted modules, or something you can ship cheap and easily and quickly), and include a plainative plea to give you a "5" on your DSRs if the buyer is happy with your service (which, if they get something cheap and quick, they probably will); or, simply start a new ID when you sell, as I believe "new" sellers are exempt from the rules, and use your other ID for buying only.  

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:56 pm 
 

How about saying "In line with eBay's requirement that we provide no protection to the item being shipped, should you select to ship with no protection for $3, we will ship your product 21 days after your PayPal payment has been received."

Or "If you select the zero protection shipping option, we will not accept PayPal payments for this item. We will accept cash only." If you would prefer to pay with PayPal, you are required to pay for suitable shipping for your item."


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:50 am 
 

Afraid of the Dark wrote:Out of curiosity, how do I see a seller's (most importantly: my) numerical DSR.


To see your numbers, go to My Ebay, scroll down the left hand column under "My Account", and click on "Seller Dashboard".  Good luck.


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:48 am 
 

lucyjoyce wrote:
To see your numbers, go to My Ebay, scroll down the left hand column under "My Account", and click on "Seller Dashboard".  Good luck.


For me the numbers show up if the pointers is held over the star, but you can get a look at your averages by going to dashboard.

A 4, according to ebay, means that the buyer was satisfied, so a 4.3 should mean that the average sales rate as 'More than satisfied', not 'Your going to have your seller account suspended'.

  

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:18 am 
 

Badmike wrote:
Malc, the problem I see is that you really aren't paying cheaper prices. Ebay specifically states to just move the shipping/handling charges straight to your sale price.  All this changes is that ebay will be making more money as right now they get no piece of shipping costs, only FVF costs.  So, instead of a SW M5 for $40 and $6 shipping, you'll be getting it for $47 with $3 shipping.  The new policy doesn't make anything cheaper, quite the opposite.
Mike B.


Yes, but thats only for BIN items. Again, I actually buy very few of those - I'm an Auction Boy  :D

I always factor in p&p to any bids, but the problem is those sellers who dont list postage, and sting you when they send you a total.

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:46 am 
 

lucyjoyce wrote:To see your numbers, go to My Ebay, scroll down the left hand column under "My Account", and click on "Seller Dashboard".  Good luck.

Yes, I see it now, thanks!

  

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:07 pm 
 

Are these "PayPal discount coupons" valid?


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:12 pm 
 

serleran wrote:Are these "PayPal discount coupons" valid?

Valid in what sense?

If you're asking about the ebay 10% discount coupons that (only) apply when you pay via paypal, then yeah, they work. I've used a few.

Sneaky way for ebay to slowly escalate the perceived market value for stuff. Of course, it only works for ebay in the long term, since they eat most of the discount that they give you.

  

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:54 pm 
 

Valid, as in legitimate. Never seen one before, so I thought it might be a ploy.


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:04 pm 
 

Afraid of the Dark wrote:Sneaky way for ebay to slowly escalate the perceived market value for stuff. Of course, it only works for ebay in the long term, since they eat most of the discount that they give you.

Maybe it's not as bad for ebay as I thought.

Since it only works via pay pal, the discount that ebay is eating ends up coming out of the fees for both ebay and pay pal. For joe schmoe sellers like me who aren't power sellers, the net fees for typical items are in the 13% range (counting both ebay and pay pal combined), so ebay appears to be well covered. (But I don't know how much the net fee is for power sellers.)

So maybe it really is just a sneaky way for ebay to slowly escalate the perceived value for stuff and/or a way to get you to buy something that you might not otherwise have bought. Thus competing with another bidder and driving up a price, or triggering a buy it now item earlier than it would otherwise have sold or for more than it would otherwise have sold.

  

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:09 pm 
 

Well, it is only 10% which typically means "ooo, nothing" so I'm not likely to use it.


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:19 pm 
 

serleran wrote:Well, it is only 10% which typically means "ooo, nothing" so I'm not likely to use it.

Hah, well, email the code to me, and I'll use it :)

I forget what the upper limit is -- ether no more than $100 discount, or no more than $10 discount.

For the price range of things I collect ($10-$150), that's almost a guaranteed push-me-over-the-top bid OR at the very least, free faster shipping.

And if t really does allow up to a $100 discount, that's pretty darn significant for D&D rares. Of course, timing has to be right, and you need to hope for the other bidders to not use the coupon.

  

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:28 pm 
 

Naw, I think I'll auction it off.


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