mbassoc2003 wrote:I agree with a lot of what's being said.But I've said it before. The stereotypes of various countries tends to be true for the bulk of it's population. The English on the whole are arrogant arseholes when they go abroad, with no interest in foreign culture, and little interest in anything cultural.
Badmike wrote:I don't understand....that stuff about the French WASN"T true???? And the comment about Mexico....dude, it's a 3rd world country. When I want their opinion of how to bribe a police officer I'll ask them, otherwise any opinion of theirs is silly. They can't even run their own banana republic much less take time to comment on boorish Americans. If it weren't for U.S. money (both aid given them and billions of dollars mailed back by illegals here) Mexico would be pretty close to Somalia right now. They've had more police officers killed there this year than I've had hot lunches (and I'm big, I eat a lot...)Mike B.
mbassoc2003 wrote:TBH, I think it is supremely arrogant of any country to think it has the right to tell another country how it should govern itself or deal with it's citizens. For us in the 'democratic west' to think our values and systems are superior to everyone elses, and then to impose those value systems adhoc on everyone else is completely contemptable. The idea that 'we' the western democratic alliance are 'bringing democracy to these backwards countries is both laughable and an example of how stupid and ignorant we are as nations. As nations we ask our governments to do these things and we send our young to enforce it. Really, who are we to judge and say 'we are right and they are wrong'? Between the USA and the UK, we comprise two of the most politically corupt ecoonies on the planet.
TheMilford wrote:Not that I made a specific "comment about Mexico" but for what it's worth If we hadn't passed NAFTA they probably would have been well on their way years ago to being a 2nd-world country just like us.And you are right... the French are pretty snobby... But they gave us Erik Satie and the Tour de France so I'm not complaining.
TheMilford wrote:They've supported all of our recent misguided attempts at imperialism when everybody else thought we were crazy.
mbassoc2003 wrote:Benjoshua is almost right IMHO. But I think it is the responsibility of richer and stronger nations not to exploit poorer and weaker nations, and we (USA and the UK) have exploited more poor weak and deprived peoples than anyone else in the entire history of mankind. We are the most corupt societies on the planet.And, yes, we do 'judge' other societies and pronounce them inferior to our own. We do it every day in our press and on our television sets. Why is the UK and the US in Afganistan and Iraq if not to 'bring them democracy'? All the rest is just political smoke and bullshit.Problem is, the majority of people buy into the biased and misleading crap that their TVs tell them because the majority of society has neither the brain power nor the will to think for themselves.
FormCritic wrote:It's kind of cool to talk about imperialsim and how the US is doing this or that to someone around the world.
JasonZavoda wrote:LoL The "Bring them Democracy" is the political smoke and bullshit. The USA in Afganistan is about stuff, keeping and taking it.
FormCritic wrote:Stuff? What is there in Afghanistan that we want?Dirt? Rocks? Impassable mountains? Scrub grass? Burkhas? Turbans? We don't need Afghanistan to get heroin supplies. We can get that from China via Mexico.We're in Afghanistan because a bunch of nutbirds used its chaos as a safe harbor to attack us.We're still in Afghanistan because we're too soft-hearted to either leave them in the lurch or do the cruel things that must be done there.Stuff? No.
mbassoc2003 wrote:That doesn't explain or justify why the US and UK are in Afganistan or Iraq.
jasonw1239 wrote:It's all about the pipelines.http://www.worldpress.org/specials/pp/pipelines.htm
