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Post Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:58 am 
 

ashmire13 wrote:But please don't tell me football is boring, not when you have baseball still being played...  :twisted:


Baseball can be fixed with the random placement of landmines in the outfield.  Then we'd have some excitement.

I have to admit that I enjoyed the World Cup this year.  I don't know if I will end up watching any other soccer/football throughout the year though.  I think of it going to be like Olympic Hockey.  Every 4 years I really enjoy watching it but the normal grind isn't something I can enjoy (if I want fake fights, I'll watch wrestling).


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:00 am 
 

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Baseball can be fixed with the random placement of landmines in the outfield.  Then we'd have some excitement.


Genius!  :)


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:22 am 
 

red_bus wrote::lol: You can't fight it BM.  And the success of the US Football Team this World Cup was a great indicator. I predict the US may have a good chance at getting close to the final, or even winning, at the next one in Brazil in 2014.


You may not be far off the mark with this comment.  A few major changes will still be needed though.  A new coach being one of them.  I think Bob Bradley is a fine coach but everyone is pointing to the U.S. needing a foreign coach if they are going to make it to the latter stages of the tournament.  U.S. Soccer has already talked with Jurgen Klinsmann from Germany about coaching but he said no.  From what I read it was because he wanted full control of the team and was turned down.

Developing a love for the game in our children is a huge step.  Kids in this country with even a bit of talent for soccer will never get to develop that talent simply because the programs arent widepread enough in schools.  They focus on NFL style football, basketball, and baseball.  Odd though, when kids in the U.S. are very young (5 - 9 years) they are usually introduced to soccer.  But once they get past that 10 year threshold, soccer isnt readily available anymore (at least around here) and they usually move on to one of the above mentioned sports.  Hopefully, the powers that be can use this World Cup as a springboard for a major marketing campaign that will bring more interest for the sport in the U.S. and in our schools.

I also think it is a no-brainer for the MLS to start putting money into bringing in players from outside the country.  The David Beckham "experiment" was a success whether you like the guy or not.  It brought a serious spotlight onto the sport in the U.S. for the first time.  A lot of people who never gave a damn about soccer before were intrigued for the first time.  Sure, there are several foreign players in the MLS now but no one of the caliber of Cristiano Ronaldo, Wayne Rooney, or Lionel Messi.  If Diego Forlan was loaned to FC Dallas for 6 or 8 weeks I would go watch every game.  :D

On the flip side of that....until more American players make their mark in the European leagues and bring back that experience to other players in the U.S. we will probably never have a championship caliber team.  Jozy Altidore, Landon Donovan, Steve Cherundolo, Clint Dempsey, Carlos Bocanegra, and Tim Howard all started for the U.S. and all played for European teams over the last couple of years.  It's proven that if you practice and play with the best, it will elevate your own game.

I like to think about the success that the U.S. had at the Winter Olympics last year as an example of what a country with a lot of money and drive can accomplish.


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:37 am 
 

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Baseball can be fixed with the random placement of landmines in the outfield.  Then we'd have some excitement.

I have to admit that I enjoyed the World Cup this year.  I don't know if I will end up watching any other soccer/football throughout the year though.  I think of it going to be like Olympic Hockey.  Every 4 years I really enjoy watching it but the normal grind isn't something I can enjoy (if I want fake fights, I'll watch wrestling).


I guess most people just dont see baseball the way I do.  I think it is very exciting to watch.  There is a good amount of strategy involved and a lot of finesse.  Seeing a pitcher like Greg Maddux squeak a slider off the edge of the plate and make a good hitter miss badly was what got me interested in baseball.  Sure it is exciting when a good hitter belts a huge home run but for me watching a pitcher throw a two hit shutout is what really makes it for me.  All the steroid and HGH crap over the past ten years has really tainted the game though.  :(

As for soccer, I hope to catch a few Premier league games this year.  Unfortunately I dont know if I have any channels showing them.  I think ESPN shows a few here and there.  I'll be rooting for Everton.  Two really good players named Tim on the team.  :wink:   I cant bring myself to root for Manchester United, Arsenal, or Liverpool.  They are so good it would be like someone with no clue about baseball automatically rooting for the Yankess because they are the best team.  Although I wont rule out rooting for Chelsea a bit.  Frank Lampard was by far the best player for England I saw during the World Cup and along with Diego Forlan of Uruguay and a couple of other good players was what really got me interested in the sport.


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:45 am 
 

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Here in the Midwest, we are seeing a soccer explosion amoung high school teams.  Two factors for this are:  soccer teams cost less than other sports and more chatholic influence here in the midwest.  Almost every high school now offers soccer.

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:45 am 
 

red_bus wrote::lol: You can't fight it BM.  And the success of the US Football Team this World Cup was a great indicator. I predict the US may have a good chance at getting close to the final, or even winning, at the next one in Brazil in 2014.

Here is quite a sweet video someone has posted of Spanish football supporters celebrating in London on Sunday night after their win.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-WkTpVEjJo


Honestly soccer is being hyped in the USA but it is doubtful that it will ever catch on. Kids play it, but thats where it ends, and it is pretty much seen as a kids game. Women's bikini volleyball, football, basketball, baseball and hockey... men in shorts kicking a ball around just doesn't have the same appeal. Now women's bikin soccer would definitely get a viewing audience.

  

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:57 am 
 

JasonZavoda wrote:Honestly soccer is being hyped in the USA but it is doubtful that it will ever catch on.


Because of the large influx of immigrants (legal or otherwise) to this country we are quickly seeing a much larger fanbase for the sport that didnt exist ten or twenty years ago.  There were people at work having World Cup parties so people could all get together and watch the U.S. team play.  I never saw stuff like this during the last two World Cups.


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:00 am 
 

Kingofpain89 wrote:As for soccer, I hope to catch a few Premier league games this year.  Unfortunately I dont know if I have any channels showing them.  I think ESPN shows a few here and there.  I'll be rooting for Everton.  Two really good players named Tim on the team.  :wink:  


ESPN in the UK have exclusive matches played on Saturdays, Sundays and Monday I'm sure. I don't subscribe to their channel, but you may well get some on there.

Good choice on Everton, they will do well again this season, probably top 8 or so. Liverpool did badly by their standards last season, finishing 7th, but their new manager should work miracles there.

Manchester City are buying their way to the top unfortunately, but I'd keep an eye on Newcastle (who were promoted last term) and West Ham coming out of the pack to the top half of the table.


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:01 am 
 

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Two factors for this are:  soccer teams cost less than other sports


What price a pair of football boots and a ball! It has to be one of the cheapest sports to take part in, considering the other equipment sports need and beyond that, you only need 'jumpers for goalposts!'  :lol:


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:24 am 
 

ashmire13 wrote:
What price a pair of football boots and a ball! It has to be one of the cheapest sports to take part in, considering the other equipment sports need and beyond that, you only need 'jumpers for goalposts!'  :lol:


Agreed.  I do not think most people understand how expensive football(american) and basketball uniforms are.  For soccer its a nice shirt and some shorts, socks, and a pair of shoes.

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:34 am 
 

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What price a pair of football boots and a ball! It has to be one of the cheapest sports to take part in, considering the other equipment sports need and beyond that, you only need 'jumpers for goalposts!'  :lol:


And shinguards... if you ever played soccer... er um... football... most definitely shinguards...  :)


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:56 am 
 

Kingofpain89 wrote: I'll be rooting for Everton.


Good choice there :)

The Toffees are who I support - I was born in Everton hospital and lived my first years in Everton terrace, just by the ground :)

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:21 am 
 

Rugby is a real sport. More people should try that.


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:44 am 
 

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And shinguards... if you ever played soccer... er um... football... most definitely shinguards...  :)


agreed, although barely used in the 70's when men were men and you're protection was a perm or your fist...


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:23 pm 
 

Kingofpain89 wrote: I'll be rooting for Everton.  


With the news of their new away kit for next season, you may want to reconsider that....

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/wor ... cle/17751/


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:27 pm 
 

ashmire13 wrote:
With the news of their new away kit for next season, you may want to reconsider that....

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/wor ... cle/17751/


Yeah...its pretty awful.  I've read quite a few people are unhappy with it.  Can't be any worse than being a Tampa Bay Bucs fan during the 70's and 80's though.  Really gotta feel sorry for those poor bastards.  Ugly uniforms and bad teams.

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:38 pm 
 

Kingofpain89 wrote:
Yeah...its pretty awful.  I've read quite a few people are unhappy with it.  Can't be any worse than being a Tampa Bay Bucs fan during the 70's and 80's though.  Really gotta feel sorry for those poor bastards.  Ugly uniforms and bad teams.

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:49 pm 
 

OK, maybe someone here can help... my work just gave me an iPad. What the hell am I going to use it for? I don't travel for work and it does not come with WiFi access (it can access other networks if you know the SSID and password) so its basically a bigger MP3 player (and wussier, at only 14 GB).

If you had one, what would you use it for? Seems pointless to me.


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