Jaybird216 wrote:That all being said, I'd like to withdraw my reservation (lucky you, davidc!). I'm a fan of Otus' work, but not a rabid fan.

I'd also like to point out I did a similar thing several pages back on Mar 18, which has not been reflected in the current list:

deimos3428 wrote:Please bump me to the bottom of the waiting list, and shift everyone up by one.  

I am not backing down on my commitment to this project, and will continue to underwrite one copy, so if by some absurdity another 6-7 people drop off "copy #50" is still covered.

So I'm saying put me on the waiting list, permanently at the bottom.

Obtuce!
That's it.
In the hole.
One Month.

bclarkie wrote: I fail to see how acting deliberately obtuse is helping at all.

Obtuse?
Thanks so much for the insult.
That was much more helpful.....

When I first signed on for this project (At spot 45) I offered to be responsible for two copies IF NEEDED, not because I desperately wanted two copies, but as added support for the project as a whole.

Just to make a clarification.
My arguments above FOR the low posting Acaeum members currently on that list has nothing to do with my own position on the list.
And I have not made up a new membership account here just to get more than one copy.
Compared to about 90% of the world's population, I am a computer ignoramus, I would not know how to do such a thing and it would never cross my mind to do so anyway.

That said, if that is the case for anyone here and if that is in fact what has happened here, then (IMO) whoever did that should be banned from getting ANY copies of the EO print, under any name or names.

Also; none of my posts above were meant to slight ANYONE or any other opinions about this project.
Not even bclarkie.......

I HIGHLY respect those who are on the EO Board and what they are trying to do not just for the Acaeum, or for its membership, but for the RPG collecting community as a whole.
I would agree with any decision those guys make, whether on the first page, or in any future pages or threads about this project.

Though I honestly would love to have one of the Prints and I had already planned where it would be placed in my game room.
I hereby back out and ask that my name also be placed on the outside looking in list too.
Don't much care where on the list, just above the bottom I guess at spot 17, since the Lemur wants spot 18 so badly.

Please allow someone who really wants it to get my previously assigned placement on the list for an EO print.

I do this not because I don't care to have a copy, but because I am a TOTAL backer of this project and a huge fan of any and all Future Projects of this type.
And I will continue to be a backer in any way I am allowed to be.
Even if it means I will not get a copy of the EO print.

That's what a community is for.

bombadil wrote:The altruism's getting a little thick around here...

I was just getting ready to say something similar.  If people start backing out of the project because they feel the whole scope is unfair then it is definitely going to fail.  Maybe everyone should just take a deep breath, step back, and let the committee do its thing.

Gus Landt wrote:Wow, it never even occurred to me how easy it would have been for someone to create a couple new accounts the day this was posted so they could get multiple copies.  That would be insanely easy to do, just using a second email address and the mailing address of a family member.

The only thing I have to contribute is this - it seems to me that the number "50" wasn't picked because it was magical, but because it seemed like a large enough number to meet the needs of this community.  I would guess that whomever picked the number "50" did so partially wondering if all 50 would be accounted for.

Obviously that has not been the case, so why force it to stick to an original guess?  What is gained by that? Clearly this project is more popular than originally estimated, and now we have some information to make a more accurate estimate.  Making a single correction to the print run is not opening the door to continued revising. It is simply correcting an initial guess that turned out to be too low.

To whomever picked the number "50" - if you had known in the beginning that the copies would have sold so quickly, and that we would so quickly be looking at a 20 name waiting list, would you have gone with 75 or even 100?

Up the number to 100, pay EO $2500 for the prints, and another $2500 for the original.  Give the original to Foul as a gift for creating this place for all of us.  

Or, put that extra cash towards a future book of all the prints created out of this project.

I agree with this.  Up the count to 100.  If it is a community project lets have it for the community, not just the first 50 people who committed.

Also only members that were registered the day the first post on this topic was created should be eligable.

If this project is about community then the count should be increased!

bombadil wrote:Who's to say the individuals that signed on to the Acaeum aren't going to be the next generation of long-term and active posters that bring new blood to the hobbies of collecting and gaming?  Maybe this was the stochastic event that brought them over the threshold into the community.  

That's a really great, valid point, Bombadil. Idealistic and improbable, but valid. I think we all hope it's the case. Sorry for failing to resist the urge to fire off a smarmy little quip of my own about "community". One should count to ten before hitting "Reply".

bombadil wrote:And to paraphrase (Dawkins, IIRC):  Acts of altruism often, upon closer examination, reveal themselves to be acts of selfishness in disguise.

Nah, not here. Like I said, if it was Holloway, I'd have kept my yap shut.   I just felt bad hogging a spot which could go to someone more passionate about Otus, or even about the Acaeum. Not saying I'm above selfishness, it's just not the case here.

I'll echo the recent posts calling for a wait-and-see. Now that the Committee is armed with more knowledge of the logistics and expenses which will be involved, maybe they'll reconsider the initial estimate. I agree that the line does have to be drawn somewhere, though. These folks are volunteers, after all. Would having to print/sign/ship 25 more copies be the end of the world? Probably not. But that's not my call to make, as I'm not the one who would get saddled with the responsibility of fulfillment.

In the end, it's an ambitious undertaking and a really cool idea.

Glad to see the laughing smiley, John.  Trust me, I don't think your motives are selfish; I just couldn't resist the quip.  

Humans are funny in that way.  Often there's no logical explanation for their behavior.  And by "logical" I mean "biological".  And by "humans" I mean "non-Vulcan".  

bbarsh wrote:print # should be assigned in alphabetical order with the exception of Aneoth

oh crap...and avurax....

Although with all the shit poor Aneoth is getting, we might have to make an exception.