Prufrock wrote:We 1e D & D guys have to learn to share - it's a good thing.Martin
Your are kidding, right? Football is the king of American sports. Nobody, judges football or its fans because a couple crazies dress up like spider-man or santa clause on rare occassions.
A couple guys do a mainstrean spidey costume or something similar out of 65,000 who attend the game...I don't think the comparison is remotely close.
jcp wrote:You may have missed the pics I posted but I wouldn't exactly call half the crowd at a Raiders or Packers game to be "a couple guys". And I also wouldn't call just about anything Raiders fans wear to be mainstream unless most people walk around looking like they just came from a Gwar concert (or better yet just performed in one).
Prufrock wrote:Bill,1E gamers are going to have to face the fact that we are getting old. With the advent of 4e, D & D gets farther from the base (US). Okay, we don't like the way its going. But that is exactly what our grandfathers said about our generation.martin
When people (general public) talk football, their first thought is not going to be the Hogs at RFK. When they (general public) talk about gamers --- they are going to think about the only thing they have publicly seen -- fat guys in tights! Like it or not, that is the reality. I am not saying it is correct, but the truth hurts.
I just did a search on "packers fans" on google images and the vast majority of photos I saw were of crazy fans in costumes of some sort or another, and not just cheese hats. I used to live in Wisconsin so I know fairly well the level many fans go to in dressing up for games.
You may not see the connection but I stand by my suggestion that costumes at Gencon are not really any different than costumes at a football game.
In fact I'd even go so far as to say there are more costumes at an average football game than at Gencon. By far.
And for the record I don't wear costumes to Gencon or any other game convention.
I tend to personally think it's silly but can also appreciate the eccentric qualities that make it tolerable and certainly not out of place.
As to outsiders thinking a few guys in tights represent the wide range of gamers, well, I don't know how scientific such a view is but if it's even held at all, so what?
Badmike wrote:...We need to beef up the costume quotient for next year's NTRPG Con. Anyone (besides Jason Braun) volunteer to dress up?... Mike B.
bbarsh wrote:Not too mention the dozens of High School and Youth League games I attend as a coach. There are 65,000-100,000 people at these games (not the high school games, that only happens in Texas)
Euless Trinity, Utah team will play stadium openerPosted Wednesday, Aug. 12, 2009 ARLINGTON — The football teams of Euless Trinity and Bingham, Utah, have more in common than meets the eye. Not only are they matched in what will be the first high school game at Cowboys Stadium, they both do the Haka."We've been doing the Haka since 2005," Bingham coach David Peck said."We even talked about doing it together, but we couldn't quite get that worked out," Trinity coach Steve Lineweaver said with a smile as he spoke at a news conference Wednesday to promote the Kirk Herbstreit Varsity Football Series. Four games are scheduled on Labor Day at the new home of the Dallas Cowboys, beginning with the Trinity-Bingham game at 10:30 a.m. All the games will be televised by Fox Sports Net.But even the Haka, the traditional war dance of the Maori tribe in New Zealand made popular by rugby and adopted by the Trojans' Tongan players, might take a back seat to the site of the game."No question -- it was a 'wow,' " Peck said of his players' reaction when he told them they would not only be playing one of Texas' top teams, but in the new NFL stadium to boot. "We always tell our kids, 'If you want to get playing time, do something to make us go "wow." When I announced we were going to play Trinity, they went, 'wow.' "The home-state Trojans are a bit star-struck, too."From our practice field, it's easy to see the top of the stadium," Lineweaver said. "The kids always look over there after they break up practice. They must be thinking, 'We're really going to play there?' They're very excited."Bingham is a Utah power, and Peck said his team plays the same style of football as Trinity — physical and run-oriented. The team even has a player who attended Trinity as a ninth-grader, he said. But the game against the Trojans will be a proving ground, he said."We as coaches hear all the time about Texas high school football," he said. "It's kind of the standard of what it should be, and what our goals are. So when we had the chance to play a team from Texas, we jumped all over it. It's a bonus to be able to play at the new Cowboys Stadium. It's the chance of a lifetime. It's probably the biggest high school game a team from Utah has ever played because of that and the caliber of team we're playing."I just hope we're able to give them a game."
What do so many of you find threatening about a kilt?
serleran wrote:Yeah, I'd like an answer to that, too. After all, I wore mine to my wedding, and to the Sterling Ren Faire. And, the bastard thing cost me almost as much as a woodgrain, to have it sanctioned and recorded as belonging to my clan... I also know that if I came to GenCon, I'd be mighty tempted to wear it. Guess I'd have to avoid many of you guys, though.
Badmike wrote:As long as you wear underwear with it, I'm cool. If not....ewwwwww... 8O Mike B.
Kaskoid wrote:What do so many of you find threatening about a kilt? As a Celt myself, I was wondering how I could talk one of the booths out of one if I wore it on the Auction stage. Hell, I'm 60; what's the big deal about kilts?
red_bus wrote:(i.e. early 19th century)
red_bus wrote:No big deal about kilts. Not sure what a "celt" is (unless you are talking about 1,000BC). Personally I agree - I think more people should wear kilts (at any age ), they look cool. Although bear in mind that many tartans, and the popularity of the modern kilt, date from a fairly recent revival of and romanticisation of Scottish culture by the Victorians (i.e. early 19th century). So there may be less ancient culture round your waist than you thought.
