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Post Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 11:01 am 
 

SimperingToad wrote:if people received residuals, then pulling the line of PDFs and releasing 'new' versions would remove the ties to old authors.

::snort:: The PoG made sure that nobody got any royalties or residuals from anything. Not even Gary or Dave iirc.

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Post Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 11:19 am 
 

Gnat the Beggar wrote:EIGHTY FREAKING BUCKS for a brand new copy of a rehashed T1?!?!  8O

Yeah, for that price I could have bought about one-twentieth of your world-famous Orange B3. What was I thinking?

It's not meant as an investment or a re-sale turnaround. It's going to satisfy both a nostalgia itch and my curiosity; I admit I'm curious to see what they did with the ol' village.

If I like it, I'll keep it forever. If I don't, I'll list it and get some of my money back. Either way, the world will keep on a-spinnin' ...

Gnat the Beggar wrote:I already have a copy of T1 on my self (Actually a few of em). :lol:
And I did not have to pay $40, or $80 for it either. 8O
In fact IIRC I did not even pay a TENTH of the lower end of that range. :lol:
OK, a collector might pay upwards of $40 for a Mint SWed First Print (Mono) of T1 these days, but not $80.

Are you through now?

Hey, guess what I've got on my shelf? About 19 B3s ... and I didn't pay thousands of dollars for any of them, either!

How's that sale working out for you ... ?   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

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Post Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 11:28 am 
 

Badmike wrote:
I agree this has started to become ludicrous.  I'd love ONE SINGLE original idea to pop out of WOTC's ass anytime soon.  I love nostalgia as much or more than the next guy, but I'm sorry, coming out with 4E  verisions of Village of Hommlet, Against the Giants, Descent Into the Depths, Tomb of Horors, or whatever corpse they decide to unearth this week just tells me they aren't even trying. Especially with the burgeoning retro-clone movement and several quality releases by the independent operator  (Just reading F1 Fane of Poisoned Prophecies by Guy Fullerton and he's got the look and feel down perfectly without making a fool of himself).

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Post Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 1:02 pm 
 

ExTSR wrote:::snort:: The PoG made sure that nobody got any royalties or residuals from anything. Not even Gary or Dave iirc.

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Ugghhh!  How terrible!

It goes without saying that you guys have our undying gratitude for all that you created, but a little coin from each of the sales wouldn't have hurt. :)

Back on topic, I wouldn't mind seeing how Hommlett has been transformed under 4e, but I will wait until the price settles a bit before I jump in.  The Acaeum Effect will keep the prices high for a few weeks or months, then hopefully it will drop a bit when you all have forgotten about it or trashed it so many times that no one wants to own it (except me). ;)


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Post Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 1:09 pm 
 

I've already received a couple of requests to post a review, or maybe just a broad overview, when I get my copy, so I'll be sure to do that. I've paid the guy and his solid feedback would seem to indicate a reliable shipper, so I hope to have it soon-ish.

Add: whoops; page-jump. I'm referring to the previous post.

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Post Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 6:05 pm 
 

SoulCatcher78 wrote:
I'm holding judgement on that until I see their Giants adventure that's coming out this summer.   :roll:

I'm not a 4e fan, but I'm hoping Revenge of the Giants has a good deal of fluff in it. If it's all 4e rules crunch then I'll probably skip it.

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Post Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 6:51 pm 
 

I'm really hating all the 4E artwork so far...

  


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Post Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 8:46 pm 
 

I found the RPGA thread for the Hommlet roll out here.  For those of you currently signed up for the RPGA (and GM rewards program) you might be getting a suprise in the mail.  

If you are a member and haven't updated your information lately  :oops:  you can do so and look to be a part of the August mailing.  According to the high muckety muck of the RPGA (WotC_Tulach) this should be pretty painless (see post #13 in the thread).

If anyone needs an RPGA sign up card, I still have a couple (4) and can mail them out if you're interested in signing up.

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Post Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 10:07 pm 
 

SoulCatcher78 wrote:I found the RPGA thread for the Hommlet roll out here.  For those of you currently signed up for the RPGA (and GM rewards program) you might be getting a suprise in the mail.  

If you are a member and haven't updated your information lately  :oops:  you can do so and look to be a part of the August mailing.  According to the high muckety muck of the RPGA (WotC_Tulach) this should be pretty painless (see post #13 in the thread).

If anyone needs an RPGA sign up card, I still have a couple (4) and can mail them out if you're interested in signing up.

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I could use one, I was a GM years ago, but can't find my card/letter they sent.
Would it be possible to scan the card, or do you actually have to mail it?

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Post Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 11:04 pm 
 

bbarsh wrote:Why is it that in order to lend any sort of credibility to any version of D&D they need to rehash a classic. For some reason there seems to be a mentality that good scenario (ala the classics) is beneath them.


More importantly:  why don't they have anyone with the design chops to produce a 4e "classic" that's equivalent to T1?


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Post Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 11:10 pm 
 

Xaxaxe wrote:I've already received a couple of requests to post a review, or maybe just a broad overview, when I get my copy, so I'll be sure to do that. I've paid the guy and his solid feedback would seem to indicate a reliable shipper, so I hope to have it soon-ish.


Thanks Duke!:  I'm not very interested in 4e based on what I've read about it, but I'd be happy to take a spin in Hommlet with someone else running it, sometime---as long as the adventure looks good/has some new and worthwhile twists.

Knightfall wrote:I'm not a 4e fan, but I'm hoping Revenge of the Giants has a good deal of fluff in it. If it's all 4e rules crunch then I'll probably skip it.


Interesting:  a 160 page boxed set for $40 @ GenCon (August release).  I guess I'll be interested to see what it's about, although I can't imagine many stores having non-shrink copies to dig into :/


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Post Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 12:34 am 
 

SoulCatcher78 wrote:
If anyone needs an RPGA sign up card, I still have a couple (4) and can mail them out if you're interested in signing up.


Yeah, that would be great, if you don't mind.

  

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Post Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 3:38 am 
 

bbarsh wrote:Why is it that in order to lend any sort of credibility to any version of D&D they need to rehash a classic. For some reason there seems to be a mentality that good scenario (ala the classics) is beneath them.

grodog wrote:More importantly:  why don't they have anyone with the design chops to produce a 4e "classic" that's equivalent to T1?


It is probably because talented and skilled writers tend to have vision and self respect, and both vision and self respect prevent them from working with WoTC. Naturally WoTC will not see this, or understand it's importance, as has been demonstrated over the past decade.


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Post Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 7:11 am 
 

I'm tapped out of cards now.  Thanks for all the replies.

EDIT:
I found another way.  I signed up online but it has you sending multiple emails back and forth.

Step 1: Set up an account at wizards.com (free)
Step2: send an email to their customer service dept here with the following information:
First Name
Last Name
Mailing Address
City
State/Province
Zip/Postal Code
Country
Phone Number
Birth Date
Email Address

Step3: follow up when them email you back about your membership.  They will mail your card to you after they process your information (usually 2+weeks).

I see that for the DM Rewards program you have to pass their herald test (general information about 4E) and update your personal information through the site.  The point system is for additional stuff (minis, etc).

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Post Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 1:20 pm 
 

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WoTC killed D&D with the release of 3/3.5E The worst thing they ever did was try to merge D&D with Magic The Gathering. That really killed the whole genre, and neither D&D nor MTG seem to have lived through it. What we see is an awful lot of dead horses being flogged by everyone who is dependant on an industry controlled by one cartel. And those rotting carcasses really are stinking up the joint. The only breaths of fresh air we get are a few fan writers who have neither the time nor resources to do a polished job worthy of their creativity, and the reminants of the legends of our industry (God rest many of their souls).... quote]

Please tell me how they tried to merge D&D with M:TG with the release of 3rd Edition (and 3.5). Please provide specific examples, since I find this to be a very vague statement.

Magic: The Gathering IMHO was entirely dependent on its Pro Tour, which from 5 international events a few years ago now (I believe) only has 3 this year. And I believe the decline in Magic: The Gathering is somehow tied to this. Having said that, I sold a number of Magic cards since GenCon of last year. The Alpha/Beta/Unlimited cards are STILL fetching TOP DOLLAR (power nine cards, etc.). And I have profited from selling those cards quite well (it's how I bought my house many years ago, thanks to M:TG).

As far as the re-release of old modules to newer formats... if the module was that good when it was released, why not re-release it for a newer audience?

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Post Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 2:23 pm 
 

Invincible Overlord wrote:As far as the re-release of old modules to newer formats... if the module was that good when it was released, why not re-release it for a newer audience?

There's nothing wrong with re-releasing an adventure for a newer audience.  Another printing of T1 would be a good thing.  

But there's something very disturbing about taking a popular classic adventure and doing a cheap sequel just to cash in on nostalgia.  I'm not saying that's the case here, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised considering their previous "retro" offerings.

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Post Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 5:07 pm 
 

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Interesting:  a 160 page boxed set for $40 @ GenCon (August release).  I guess I'll be interested to see what it's about, although I can't imagine many stores having non-shrink copies to dig into :/



WotC Blurb at that link for the box set.

..........designed for paragon-level characters...........


I do not even know what that means. :oops:


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Post Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 5:15 pm 
 

paragon-level

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I do not even know what that means. :oops:


11-20 iirc

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