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Post Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:29 pm 
 

The Persian empire was first, and effectively invented the idea of a world empire, as well as the mechanics of holding it together (at least so long as Cyrus, Darius and Xerxes were alive).  Had it not been for the Persian empire, who knows if Alexander would have ever come up with the idea.  On the other hand, only the Romans figured out how to institutionalize empire so that it survived the death of charismatic emperors, and for that reason it makes number 2.

Between the British and the Mongol empires, it's pretty close.  But the Mongol empire probably had a larger percentage of the world population, and encompassed one of the great world cultures at the time in China.  Other than India, the British Empire largely consisted of out-of-the-way places the Brits got to first (or won from one of the other European imperial countries).  But it didn't include within its territory another major power. That's why I put it just behind at number 4.


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Post Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:00 pm 
 

Bracton wrote:Other than India...


:) That is kind of like saying - other than the meat, a cheeseburger is basically only a cheese and lettuce sandwich  :)


Edited to add that for the very reasons you stated I would deffo put the Roman Empire at #1.  In so many ways it is pretty much the paradigm empire.


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Post Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:11 pm 
 

How did my top 5 movie post morph into an historical discussion?  :scratch:

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PS   The sun never sets on the British Empire  :sunny: #1


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Post Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:12 pm 
 

the institutionalized government the Romans established enabling them to be vital for 600 years in Rome and another 700 years after that (to their defeat at Manzikert in 1071) in Constantinople clearly trumps the establishment of the Persian empire. Putting the Persians at #2 is a more compelling argument. Your commentary that much of the British Empire was in unwanted desolate places is interesting, but they desired those places so they had the ability to refuel & restock their ships such that the sun never set on the British Empire. The fact that there is still a British Commnwealth in the 21st century to me is testament to the former strength of their mercantile empire. So which is greater, the world spanning mercantile empire or the first great centralized empire?


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Post Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:23 pm 
 

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PS   The sun never sets on the British Empire  :sunny: #1


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Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst,
Where there aren't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst;
For the temple-bells are callin', an' it's there that I would be —
By the old Moulmein Pagoda, looking lazy at the sea;
                   On the road to Mandalay,
                   Where the old Flotilla lay,
                   With our sick beneath the awnings when we went to Mandalay!
                   On the road to Mandalay,
                   Where the flyin'-fishes play,
                   An' the dawn comes up like thunder outer China 'crost the Bay!


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Post Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:24 pm 
 

stratochamp wrote:being a natural born list maker (greatest empires (1)roman (2)british...) (greatest running backs (1) brown (2) payton (3) sanders....) this is right up my alley, but i will to be too busy prior to north texas to compile them. i do however have a question for center_stage. would you please explain to me what was awful about the movie serenity? i thank you in advance for your reply.

For me Serenity wasn't a bad film.  It just hurt seeing all the plots that could have been lovingly crafted into 5 or 6 seasons of Firefly mangled into 90 minutes of film.  If only Firefly could have carried on and the storylines properly worked with.  You could see Wheedon setting out the initial story threads that would never come to fruition.   :(

  

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Post Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:17 pm 
 

In deference to the OP, I will decline to explain why I'm right.  :tongue:  Back to the movies.  Anyone know one about empires?


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Post Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:40 pm 
 

and i was going to let you have the last word, as you are the DM.
1) empire strikes back
2) empire of the sun
3) fall of the roman empire


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Post Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:13 pm 
 

Bracton wrote:In deference to the OP, I will decline to explain why I'm right.  :tongue:  Back to the movies.  


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Post Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:31 pm 
 

Movies about the British Empire:

Lawrence of Arabia
The Man Who Would be King
Mountains of the Moon
Zulu


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Post Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:36 pm 
 

ha, enjoying the thread, please keep going :)


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Post Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:47 pm 
 

In reference to why I hated Serenity, Badmike summed it up very nicely and far more eloquently.

It was tough to watch a series as well thought out as Firefly, only to have a possible four or five seasons crammed into one feature length film.

That's one of the reasons I am glad that the team behind HBO's Rome mini-series never followed through on the movie. And why the second season was so much worse than the first - you could tell mid-season that the series was cancelled, as the subplots were never explored and they crammed several years into one episode.


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Post Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:31 am 
 

red_bus wrote:
DiscoDadda wrote:
PS   The sun never sets on the British Empire  :sunny: #1


I name thee SIR Discodadda  :D

Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst,
Where there aren't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst;
For the temple-bells are callin', an' it's there that I would be —
By the old Moulmein Pagoda, looking lazy at the sea;
                   On the road to Mandalay,
                   Where the old Flotilla lay,
                   With our sick beneath the awnings when we went to Mandalay!
                   On the road to Mandalay,
                   Where the flyin'-fishes play,
                   An' the dawn comes up like thunder outer China 'crost the Bay!


Top 5 Rudyard Kipling Based Movies

The Man Who Would Be King
Gunga Din
Captain Corageous
Jungle Book

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Post Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:47 am 
 

DiscoDadda wrote:Top 5 Rudyard Kipling Based Movies

The Man Who Would Be King
Gunga Din
Captain Corageous
Jungle Book

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You only listed four so I'll add the fifth for you.

Rikki-Tikki-Tavi

I don't know how good it is today, but I watched the animated film when I was a kid and I loved it.  I still want a mongoose for a pet.  And a skunk.  And a red panda.  And an otter.  And a bobcat.  8O  :lol:


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Post Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:32 am 
 

Top 5 Comedies:

Tommy Boy
Something about Mary
The Cable Guy
Road Trip
Office Space

Top 5 Sports Films:

All The Right Moves
Miracle
Youngblood
Hoosiers
Running Brave

  

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Post Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:28 am 
 

Ekim Toor wrote:Top 5 Comedies:

Tommy Boy
Something about Mary
The Cable Guy
Road Trip
Office Space

Top 5 Sports Films:

All The Right Moves
Miracle
Youngblood
Hoosiers
Running Brave

Finally, someone else who sees the comedic genius that is Tommy Boy.  Chris Farley's best movie ever and it had me rolling throughout the entire film.  :lol:

I also thought All The Right Moves was a damn good movie, but it was more small town drama than sports so it didnt make my top 5.


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Post Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:43 pm 
 

Favorite movie of all time was Stand By Me

Others are...

Slap Shot
Young Guns
Star Wars (first three)
Fellowship of the Ring
Clerks
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Post Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:47 pm 
 

xraygord wrote:Favorite movie of all time was Stand by Me


Seconded. Great movie. Definitely in my top five.

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