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Post Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 2:41 pm 
 

The adventure looks pretty cool.

Two monsters on the cover that are WOTC properties.  Better sell out fast?

We'll all have to help you sell out before they send you the letter...?


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Post Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 3:01 pm 
 

I think as long as they aren't specifically called "illithids" and "slaadi" in the text, it should be okay. I'm assuming the lesson from the first module was learned, and these are termed "mind rippers" and "grey salords" or some such.


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Post Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 3:06 pm 
 

I'm not real clear on the WOTC intellectual properties rules...or why they like them so much.

Illithids...but not drow (possibly because they don't own the word)...umber hulks...but not rust monsters (?)...beholders...apparently because someone at TSR likes them...?

IF the list were reserved to monsters whose names appear only in TSR publications but not in legend or lore, why doesn't TSR care about all the very British wumblygudgits, fuddlypugs and booblysnarks from the Fiend Folio?  (Or do they?)  Is it just that no one cares about these monsters?

And qullans!  Where have all the qullans gone?


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Post Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 3:39 pm 
 

I think for the most part WotC is interested in protecting creatures and the names of creatures that were coined by people working for TSR/WotC at the time of original publication (hence their work product was TSR intellectual property). The name "illithid", though the creature is clearly a Cthulhu rip-off, was created by EGG. The "beholder" by T. Kuntz, etc. I assume the "umber hulk" was devised by someone at TSR as well, rather than borrowed from mythology or folklore.

I doubt they'd have much luck prosecuting on the basis of someone publishing a creature nearly identical to an illithid with a different name, since the concept wasn't particularly original, but the name was. As far as the Fiend Folio creatures, for one who'd care? Secondly, the majority had already been published in White Dwarf, so the IP ownership is probably somewhat fuzzier. Third, some of the names of creatures in the FF were already stolen from other IP sources. The "githyanki" for instance (the name, nothing else) was stolen by Stross from a George R. R. Martin novel (The Dying of the Light).

I'm hardly an expert on this sort of thing, but I can certainly understand why in clear-cut cases of TSR/WotC ownership, they'd want to at least try to protect their rights.


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Post Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 6:17 pm 
 

FormCritic wrote:I'm not real clear on the WOTC intellectual properties rules...or why they like them so much.

Illithids...but not drow (possibly because they don't own the word)...umber hulks...but not rust monsters (?)...beholders...apparently because someone at TSR likes them...?

IF the list were reserved to monsters whose names appear only in TSR publications but not in legend or lore, why doesn't TSR care about all the very British wumblygudgits, fuddlypugs and booblysnarks from the Fiend Folio?  (Or do they?)  Is it just that no one cares about these monsters?

And qullans!  Where have all the qullans gone?


I recall reading somewhere about this (maybe DF), but forgot the details. I think it had to do with certain critters being licensed for use by other companies at the time, when the OGL/SRD/ABCDEFG was being drawn up. That is why a few monsters were left out.

  

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Post Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 5:49 pm 
 

I just picked them up from the printers - they are fantastic.  I do not know if having the mind flayer and Slaad in the mod violates anything but the mods themselves are very cool.  They have some real bulk to them at 40 pages.  Devon and Shawn's production work is wonderful.  The full color map really gives it an old school feel.

Those of you coming to the NTRPG.con are going to be amazed.

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Post Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 12:24 am 
 

Can't wait to check them out!


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Post Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 12:30 am 
 

Prufrock wrote:I just picked them up from the printers - they are fantastic.  I do not know if having the mind flayer and Slaad in the mod violates anything but the mods themselves are very cool.  They have some real bulk to them at 40 pages.  Devon and Shawn's production work is wonderful.  The full color map really gives it an old school feel.

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Can't wait to acquire one.


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Post Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:26 pm 
 

Just got back from the con.  Wanted to thank all those that bought a copy of Kingslayers.  Don't know exactly how many we sold, but knew I could count on my ACAEUM friends.  

Con was the best yet.  They just keep getting better.  At the raffle last year I won 2 White Boxs and this year I won another.  I immediately was able to sell it for $60 to someone who did not have one.  

Met Bill Webb, Jim Ward, Erol Otus, Jeff Dee - all 0f them great guys who were generous with their time.  

Last game of the con was a game of Aliens DMed by Allan Grohe.  Started about 11 pm Sunday night and ended about 1:30 am Monday morning.  Myself, Ryan Simm, Bill Webb, Mr. Herschberger (sp?), resident Canadian Jeff Imrie and a few aothers were eaten by the Aliens.

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Post Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:57 pm 
 

Started reading mine last night. Nice job, Martin!

Looking forward to giving John aka kingofpain some more crap next year. :D


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Post Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:07 pm 
 

bbarsh wrote:Started reading mine last night. Nice job, Martin!

Looking forward to giving John aka kingofpain some more crap next year. :D


Giving John crap is part of the allure of the con.  I look forward to it every year. :lol:

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Post Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:16 pm 
 

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Post Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:15 pm 
 

So, now can I order a copy?


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Post Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:33 am 
 

Prufrock wrote:...Last game of the con was a game of Aliens DMed by Allan Grohe.  Started about 11 pm Sunday night and ended about 1:30 am Monday morning.  Myself, Ryan Simm, Bill Webb, Mr. Herschberger (sp?), resident Canadian Jeff Imrie and a few aothers were eaten by the Aliens.

Great Time.
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Until Sunday night, I had never played Aliens before.
I was running the machine gunning Vasquez and Hudson the scared pistol packer.

Vasquez decided to follow Ripley who found the Queen in the second room she entered.
Ripley was taken out fast, but Vasquez Managed to wound the Queen four times in a row before the queen took the trouble to eiliminate Vasquez.
Soon after loosing Vasquez, I was done as Hudson too (who was on the other side of the board) as he was taken out by Acid Spray from a dying alien.

As far as I know, Vasquez was the only Marine who even wounded the queen.
But with no guns in the game, I said my goodbyes and drove home before the game was totally done (The aliens had just started an alien 3x3 wave, Hudsan saying "That's it man, game over man, game over! What the fuck are we gonna do now? What are we gonna do?").


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Post Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:59 am 
 

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My apologies for forgetting you were there.  I'm exhausted - which is a good thing.

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Post Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:31 am 
 

I fell asleep twice at the table during the Aliens game (no reflections on the game or Allan's awesome handmade board setup, but the fact I had four hours of sleep a night for four nights in a row). I still haven't gotten around to reading your adventure, Martin, but I am looking forward to it!!!

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Post Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:32 am 
 

Not to worry; I drove home that night in a daze.
If I had not had Jury Duty the next day (Monday) I probably would have slept all day yesterday.

As it was, I had to pinch myself every few moments just to keep from snoring over tesimony and such.
Thankfully it only lasted about 6 hours total as the defendant pleaded out before the end of the day and we were demissed.
Real trials are far more boring than TV shows would seem to indicate.


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