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Gnat the Beggar
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:14 am

FormCritic wrote:The Steve Perrin extended interview we conducted on the Acaeum has been used by at least one researcher and is cited elsewhere on the web for information about Chaosium and Glorantha. Those of us participating in the Q&A with Perrin were aware of the resource we were creating while we were doing it.

In the spots I have found this information used, the Acaeum thread was specifically credited and/or linked.

I started the Sorting Out Elric and D20 Collecting strands with exactly the same idea in mind...to create a resource.

The Acaeum data base ought to be a book. Its more extensive than most books.

One thing that happened here that puzzled me was the time a guy turned up with a first-rate MERP data base. People were not gung-ho to make it a part of the Acaeum site because it wasn't D&D. With all the talk we do about other games and non-TSR publications, I would have expected people to regard the guy's great research as a fortuitous add-on to the site. But no.

Now that is a real shame, I must have been absent when that happened as I do not recall it.
Can you tell us when it happened?.
Hope the guy was able to post a listing eslewhere...
Do you know if he did?

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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:30 am

I think FormCritic might be referring to Guy Fullerton (active here), who created this:

http://homepage.mac.com/guyf/MERP/Print ... rence.html

Looking at variations within different MERP printings (really interesting resource I think). I think that then part of the problem is, as ever, time. And the idea of running it as a wiki-thingy rather than an Acaeum subweb was raised. Although it might be a different occasion which is being referred to here.

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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:31 am

There's also a top-notch Cthulhu web-site elsewhere... I think it's ok for the Acaeum to be a D&D collecting forum (with a super Judges Guild subweb and additional resources

) I also know it powered my start in this hobby and I have this community to thank for it.. so credit where credit is due please - the site deserves its credit, if only to make this information easily accessible to all and foster new enthusiasm for our hobby.

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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:10 pm

davidc wrote:There's also a top-notch Cthulhu web-site elsewhere...

...with a database that hasn't been updated in years.

And what about all the games that don't have serious collector sites. Seems to me that adding a subweb for anything that someone wants to tackle as a project would be interesting.

Areas of interest/knowledge: Harn, WFRP, Ars Magica, anything BRP based such as CoC, Runequest, Pendragon and all their related games

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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:14 pm

Yeah, something impossible like Arduin or Tunnels and Trolls.

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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:18 pm

The Acaeum is not exclusively D&D and has not been for a long while.

One such example is the Judges Guild Sub-Web which includes all of Judges Guilds products, including Traveller, DragonQuest, Villains and Vigilanties, Runequest and other system specific items.

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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:28 pm

I think there were some threads about how to create a subweb on here...my search-fu wasn't strong though ;-)

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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:51 pm

Ya, we've talked about subwebs before a few times. Although with the Wiki thing going, I'm not sure what is preferred. Also, both take a lot of work and commitment so its a tough thing to get done - I know I have lots of good intentions.

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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:53 pm

GreyM wrote:I think there were some threads about how to create a subweb on here...my search-fu wasn't strong though

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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:01 pm

Gnat the Beggar wrote:The Acaeum is not exclusively D&D and has not been for a long while.

One such example is the Judges Guild Sub-Web which includes all of Judges Guilds products, including Traveller, DragonQuest, Villains and Vigilanties, Runequest and other system specific items.

It may not be exclusively D&D but it does say this in the introduction:

Welcome to The Acaeum, repository of information on Dungeons & Dragons collectibles!

And the Judges Guild subweb, while not completely D&D, is still primarily D&D. It wouldnt be a complete "Judges Guild" repository without the other systems present. MERP is not D&D. Other than being another fantasy RPG, it has nothing to do with D&D.

I think you have to be careful about introducing subwebs that arent D&D centric. By accomodating additional RPG's the site could be stretched too thin and then you end up with something like Tome of Treasures. It's a nice idea but it is woefully inadequate. Too large a scope and not enough people to work on it. At least that is my take on it.

Why a separate (from the JG subweb) subweb hasnt been done for non-TSR D&D yet is surprising to me. Role Aids products would be simple enough to complete. There are enough non-TSR collectors here that completing the subweb would only be a matter of time.

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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:03 pm

serleran wrote:Yeah, something impossible like Arduin or Tunnels and Trolls.

Arduin would be the shortest research campaign in history.

MERP is as close to D&D as you can get and still not be D&D...just as...say...4th Edition would be as far away as you can get and still be D&D.

A D20 database would be an extensive project, but it would be cool.

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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:07 pm

Kingofpain89 wrote:
Why a separate (from the JG subweb) subweb hasnt been done for non-TSR D&D yet is surprising to me. Role Aids products would be simple enough to complete. There are enough non-TSR collectors here that completing the subweb would only be a matter of time.

Isn't the Wiki accomplishing that?

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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:15 pm

Plaag wrote:
Isn't the Wiki accomplishing that?

ShaneG.

I guess that is correct. But then what is the point of even having the option for a subweb if everything from now on is just going to go into the Wiki?

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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:58 pm

FormCritic wrote:
Arduin would be the shortest research campaign in history.

Sure. Unless you care about different printings.

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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:40 pm

serleran wrote:Sure. Unless you care about different printings.

Even the newer Emperor's Choice prints are probably complicated enough.

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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:25 pm

Kingofpain89 wrote:
You didnt get a free copy for contributing to the book? That's just sad.

I DID send two cipies of the book

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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:15 pm

I wasn't trying to make some sort of big deal about it.

I figured things went awry in the mail.

It was a fun project, and if there is a second edition we might be able to add to it.

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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:51 pm

red_bus wrote:I think FormCritic might be referring to Guy Fullerton (active here), who created this:

http://homepage.mac.com/guyf/MERP/Print ... rence.html

Looking at variations within different MERP printings (really interesting resource I think). I think that then part of the problem is, as ever, time. And the idea of running it as a wiki-thingy rather than an Acaeum subweb was raised.

Yes indeed the idea of a subweb was raised. IIRC, I didn't like the idea of a subweb at the time.

One of these days, I'll push all the info onto the Acaeum wiki, with extra pics & details for the maps in relevant products.

Not sure how I want to deal with the ancillary info, like the product catalog history.

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