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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:26 am

SimperingToad wrote:Don't have any SA reprints to compare any longer, but I'm guessing from what I recall they still had the flats then.

The Silver Anniversary reprints were scans. I remember reading somewhere that the S1 Tomb of Horrors that was used belonged to a TSR staff member.

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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:51 am

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Toric wrote:That being said, these are likely to hit my bookshelves and stay there because to me, you just can't beat the originals.

But in the reprint MM, all dwarves have 7 HD. You'll need 'em to go up against PCs...

I'm immediately changing all my dwarf NPCs to match WotC's new rules. It's obviously the right thing to do.

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Does this mean that my fighter Yuri would retroactively start off with 7HD at first level fighter? :D :D :D

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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:06 am

Badmike wrote:
SimperingToad wrote:Don't have any SA reprints to compare any longer, but I'm guessing from what I recall they still had the flats then.

The Silver Anniversary reprints were scans. I remember reading somewhere that the S1 Tomb of Horrors that was used belonged to a TSR staff member.

Mike B.

I'd be interested to read that. Tried doing some searching on the reprints, but didn't come up with much.

The first mention was from someplace called "the Acaeum" which states,

The Acaeum wrote:Contrary to rumor, none of the reprinted modules are missing any artwork, nor does the set include any kind of button. Also of interest: the original layout negatives of the modules were not available for the reprint, so TSR's graphic designers were forced to re-create the modules by hand (with the aid of digital scanners, to be sure).

Which is a bit vague and unsubstantiated.

Then I came up with this page at WotC.

WotC wrote:We weren't content to just take the old modules, scan 'em in, and reprint 'em. In order to really make the Anniversary special, we wanted to create a keepsake; something that would stand the test of time, just like the classic modules at the heart of the celebration.

WotC wrote:Facsimile editions (that means you can tell they're reprints, for the collectors out there) of G1, G2, and G3 (the "Against the Giants" series), B2 (Keep on the Borderlands), I6 (Ravenloft), and S2 (White Plume Mountain).

That's just the start. For nostalgia's sake, we also included a facsimile of the old D&D® "blue book" rules that taught so many of us how to play the game.

Which can be read either way. They might have scanned, or redid the layout from scratch. Perhaps they no longer had negs or press plates, but still had the original flats to make new negs.

One thing is for certain, L3 is not a reproduction. I'd be interested to compare the others, but I'd need copies. A definitive from someone there at the time would be nice.

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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:49 pm

I wonder if we'll see reprints for the Basic sets or Rules Cyclopedia?
I'd be really interested in those.

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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:27 pm

I had been wondering about that myself. The whole thing strikes me as being tied into the rollout of DDN. It's been billed by some as the 'one game to bind them' so to speak. Given that the high-water marks of D&D sales were AD&D and 3E, it makes sense that the first reprints would come from those two to snag the larger portion of old-rule-set players back into the fold.

Given the Mentzer basic box has already been reproduced for 4E Essentials, I'm going to guess RC. Otherwise, there'd be a lot of confusion.

Now, which comes first? The RC, or AD&D2E? :mrgreen:

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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:52 pm

And now, the entire back catalog re-released.....FINALLY!!!

http://www.enworld.org/forum/news/32792 ... peech.html

I really hope they redo the scans, some of the old pdfs were awful, they could stand a clean up.

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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:23 pm

Very cool! Nice to see all editions come back. This will drastically cut down on the "collector copy" and "playing copy" of stuff for me!

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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:51 pm

Waiting for the video to be available. As others have pointed out, electronic format does not necessarily mean PDF.

But that aside, what intrigues me is how they are going to make these new files this time. Re-keyed from scratch like the AD&D reprints? Simple scans of individual pages? Special holographic inks? Okay... maybe not the last one. :mrgreen:

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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:06 pm

I was reading on another forum that Amazon has stopped filling orders... any thoughts as to whether these are ever likely to become htf and/or trade above cover price?

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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:36 pm

I'd say so. They are unique and a fairly limited release.

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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:44 pm

I can't see these going for above cover. "Limited Release" from WotC is still way too high a production level. Even though Amazon has stopped, I visited 3 or 4 shops in the last couple of weeks and all of them had them in stock so I don't think these are hard to find for cover. I still can't bring myself to buy them considering originals are 1/5 the price.

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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:00 pm

I agree with Mars, they printed way too many of these to be collector material. Every game store that I have been to in the last month has stacks of them. Many booths at Gencon were trying to unload these as well.
I am interested in how the 3.5 version will sell. There is a genuine demand for 3.5 rulebooks as even the used prices are close to cover. Since they announced the intention to reprint them, the prices have fallen dramatically. You can now buy the original 3.5 monster manual for under $25.00 on Amazon. This was selling for over $50 for the last two years at least!!

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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:18 pm

Mars wrote: I still can't bring myself to buy them considering originals are 1/5 the price.

Likewise. The originals are what got me started, it would seem wrong to buy reprints - unless there was some new AD&D material in them. :D

As to the future, perhaps in time (quite a few years), they might go for more than the original price - but as to being hard to find... I don't think so.

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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:16 pm

red_bus wrote:The originals are what got me started, it would seem wrong to buy reprints - unless there was some new AD&D material in them. :D

What? Aren't the 7HD dwarves enough change for you? :D

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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:12 am

SimperingToad wrote:
red_bus wrote:The originals are what got me started, it would seem wrong to buy reprints - unless there was some new AD&D material in them. :D

What? Aren't the 7HD dwarves enough change for you? :D

:lol:

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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:20 pm

More reprint PHB errata:

1. Halflings gain a +1 on saving throws versus wands, staves, rods, and spells "for every 3'/2 points of constitution..."
2. "...those of pure Stoutish blood are able to see heat radiation at up to 607 (normal infravision)."
3. For more on half-orcs you are directed to "the heading Orc in ADVANCED DUNGEONS ft DRAGONS, MONSTER MANUAL."

(Reported by Algolei @ thedelversdungeon.com/forums/viewtopic. ... 9062#p9062).

Also: A1-4 and S1-4 are being released next year:

A0-4: http://www.amazon.com/Against-Slave-Lor ... 943&sr=1-1 (and "A0" is not a typo, at least per the Amazon listing ;) )

S1-4: http://www.amazon.com/Dungeons-Dread-Cl ... 943&sr=1-6

(Reported by francisca @ knights-n-knaves.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.p ... mp;t=10665).

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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:47 pm

grodog wrote:Also: A1-4 and S1-4 are being released next year:

A0-4: http://www.amazon.com/Against-Slave-Lords-Adventure-Compilation/dp/0786964626/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1349706943&sr=1-1 (and "A0" is not a typo, at least per the Amazon listing ;) )

S1-4: http://www.amazon.com/Dungeons-Dread-Classic-Adventure-Compilation/dp/0786964618/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1349706943&sr=1-6

(Reported by francisca @ knights-n-knaves.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.p ... mp;t=10665).

Are these reprints of the originals, or have they been modified for the 4E ruleset, or whatever WoTC is using now?

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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:06 am

Keith the Thief wrote:Are these reprints of the originals, or have they been modified for the 4E ruleset, or whatever WoTC is using now?

WotC have not yet commented publicly on these particular releases, but the smart money is on a simple reprint of the original material. Here is a timeline of WotC reprints so far:

1e: Players Handbook Premium Reprint (17 July 2012)
1e: Dungeon Masters Guide Premium Reprint (17 July 2012)
1e: Monster Manual Premium Reprint (17 July 2012)
3.5: Player's Handbook Premium Reprint (18 September 2012)
3.5: Dungeon Master's Guide Premium Reprint (18 September 2012)
3.5: Monster Manual Premium Reprint (18 September 2012)
1e: Unearthed Arcana Premium Reprint (19 February 2013)
1e: Dungeons of Dread Classic Adventure Compilation (19 March 2013)
3.5: Spell Compendium Premium Reprint (16 April 2013)
2e: Player's Handbook Premium Reprint (21 May 2013)
2e: Dungeon Master's Guide Premium Reprint (21 May 2013)
2e: Monstrous Manual Premium Reprint (21 May 2013)
1e: Against the Slave Lords Classic Adventure Compilation (18 June 2013)

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