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Mizzle
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:11 am

Hiya,

these are shipping to retailers in the UK next week, hopefully Monday, so should have them Tuesday.

Cheers,
KAL

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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:19 am

stratochamp wrote:
my question for the people that have been posting reviews of these books: you didn't take the shrinkwrap off of your copies did you?

(just poking fun at myself) (oh and Ryan too of course)

Easy answer! Two sets. :)

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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:34 am

smarmy1 wrote:Easy answer! Two sets. :)

Bingo.

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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:09 pm

In the PHB reprint, they've used the reversed version of the "Magic Mouth" on page 108.

See this 2008 Acaeum thread for a description and picture (by chromaticknight) of the two different versions of the image:
Player's Handbook reversed art, different print version?

And here's a pic (by untimately) of the reprint, showing the reversed artwork alongside an original also with the reversed artwork:

This picture also shows the reduction in image quality in the reprints. Many details are lost due to reduced contrast. The eyes at the bottom of the stairs (on the left in these pictures) are hardly visible in the reprint.

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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:26 pm

Go on then, I'll ask the question..

Is anyone on for selling a MM, PHB, DMG (original covers, idol etc) in mint condition for less than $100 with shipping?

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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:39 pm

Hi,

dunno exact pricing yet. I will know when I get the info from the distributor next week.

But I am in the UK, so will include taxes.

Cheers,
KAL

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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:40 pm

ashmire13 wrote:Go on then, I'll ask the question..

Is anyone on for selling a MM, PHB, DMG (original covers, idol etc) in mint condition for less than $100 with shipping?

I paid approx $86 for the three books (some of the sellers have them at a bit of a discount) including USPS media mail (the most inexpensive shipping for us here in the U.S.). Unfortunately I think it'll work out to be cheaper for you to buy it in the UK since the international flat rate box (assuming it could even fit into a medium box) is $48 and $61 for the large.

edit: maybe I'm misreading your question...are you asking about the new books, or mint versions of the originals?

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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:53 pm

Zenopus wrote:In the PHB reprint, they've used the reversed version of the "Magic Mouth" on page 108.

See this 2008 Acaeum thread for a description and picture (by chromaticknight) of the two different versions of the image:
Player's Handbook reversed art, different print version?

And here's a pic (by untimately) of the reprint, showing the reversed artwork alongside an original also with the reversed artwork:

[ Image ]

This picture also shows the reduction in image quality in the reprints. Many details are lost due to reduced contrast. The eyes at the bottom of the stairs (on the left in these pictures) are hardly visible in the reprint.

That's unfortunate. Too bad no one checked or asked any questions here on the site.

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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:14 pm

Zenopus wrote:reduction in image quality in the reprints. Many details are lost due to reduced contrast.

I think the covers, binding, and paper are all superior to the original.
But I agree that some of the art sucks.
A lot of us have these in mint condition, or nearly; I wonder why we weren't asked.
The locations of at least 2 of the 3 original cover paintings are Known, but they didn't ask to scan any. (The original cover art excerpts are thus of worse quality than worst of all the problematic interiors.)

Thus, it seems that their budget for this was very low.
I have to agree with the "well, at least they tried" crowd... to an extent.
It's certainly not up to WotC's usual quality standards.

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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:46 pm

Spock, I'm asking if anyone would sell me the originals (whichever print) for under $100 inc shipping (or £ equivalent if they're in the UK) ??

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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:13 pm

Blackmoor wrote:Just picked up a set today, the players handbook is already in short supply at my local store and they have only had it since tuesday 8O

Which store? I went to "The Box" today and they seemed to have plenty...the guy at the counter didn't say how many they got in.

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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:28 pm

ExTSR wrote:I think the covers, binding, and paper are all superior to the original.

I guess we will have to revisit in 30 years, eh?

It's certainly not up to WotC's usual quality standards.

My 4E books were of Unearthed Arcana quality...

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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:29 pm

ashmire13 wrote:Spock, I'm asking if anyone would sell me the originals (whichever print) for under $100 inc shipping (or £ equivalent if they're in the UK) ??

Here's an auction for a not-quite-mint PHB, $20, free shipping in US, $12 to UK.

** expired/removed eBay auction **

If I wanted copies myself, I could travel a mile to pick out the crispest, mintiest copies from the local Half-Price Books store, for similar prices.

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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:03 pm

So whats next? My money is on A1-4 or T1-4. After all, you can't have rules without modules...

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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:43 am

sauromatian wrote:
ashmire13 wrote:Spock, I'm asking if anyone would sell me the originals (whichever print) for under $100 inc shipping (or £ equivalent if they're in the UK) ??

Here's an auction for a not-quite-mint PHB, $20, free shipping in US, $12 to UK.

** expired/removed eBay auction **

If I wanted copies myself, I could travel a mile to pick out the crispest, mintiest copies from the local Half-Price Books store, for similar prices.

$80.47 for all 3, before shipping ($12.97 Fedex Ground is the cheapest option listed), at http://www.coolstuffinc.com/ They also have free shipping if you order $100 worth of products, so....

On the quality front, I flipped through Jon's DMG at our game yesterday, and noticed a flaw on page 81 (above the rust monster McLean cartoon), where the printed text of "grant" at the right-edge of the page was obliterated in a ink splatter. The art's considerably darker in several places, and where there was fine detail that's nearly completely gone now (as with the hex grids in the campaign section, for example). Also noticed that the GenCon ad at the back of the index was missing, too....

Zenopus wrote:In the PHB reprint, they've used the reversed version of the "Magic Mouth" on page 108.

See this 2008 Acaeum thread for a description and picture (by chromaticknight) of the two different versions of the image:
Player's Handbook reversed art, different print version?
This picture also shows the reduction in image quality in the reprints. Many details are lost due to reduced contrast. The eyes at the bottom of the stairs (on the left in these pictures) are hardly visible in the reprint.

I wonder if, based on this and similar tell-tales, we can ID which printing of each book that WotC used as the master to recreate the reprints?

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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:32 am

Versimilitude wrote:Hiya,

these are shipping to retailers in the UK next week, hopefully Monday, so should have them Tuesday.

Cheers,
KAL

With much disappintment of mine :x in Italy they will be available at the end of August...

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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:56 pm

grodog wrote:
$80.47 for all 3, before shipping ($12.97 Fedex Ground is the cheapest option listed), at http://www.coolstuffinc.com/ They also have free shipping if you order $100 worth of products, so....

Hey grodog,

I was tempted to drop US$100 to get those and something else for the free shipping but then saw the following:

"Valid for Contiguous US addresses only."

So guess not for me. :(

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Ronald

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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:21 am

Hi,

yes, Coolstuffs free shipping is US only unfortunately.

Or I would have had a ton of stuff from them before now :)

Cheers,
KAL

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