Gnat the Beggar wrote:The Erol Otus Prints are a totally different thing altogether.

I am sure that a few The Dwarven Glory Reprints will be listed on e-Bay.
In fact, I know some will.

Put me down for one posthaste!

Hector.

mbassoc2003 wrote:Will any be made availablel for sale to forum members? Or are these only for attendees?

First Prints of The Dwarven Glory Reprint were available to attendees ONLY.
All of those copies sold out, so Doug has none to sell elsewhere.

Doug told me he might do a second print run and if so, he will mark those versions as second prints.
But ONLY if the demand is there.
If so, then they will be sold on RPG Marketplace.

Gnat the Beggar wrote:
First Prints of The Dwarven Glory Reprint were available to attendees ONLY.
All of those copies sold out, so Doug has none to sell elsewhere.

Doug told me he might do a second print run and if so, he will mark those versions as second prints.
But ONLY if the demand is there.
If so, then they will be sold on RPG Marketplace.

I think I read something similar over on the NTRPG forums...if I remember it correctly he was thinking about starting it next year though. I'm up for a 2nd print if he decides to do it this time.


EDIT: Found it --> http://ntrpgcon.com/index.php?option=co ... 14&id=1077

FormCritic wrote::evil:

Hey, it wasn't /that/ smug... Makes it a lot easier to break links, too.

Any comments on why this one didn't get a bigger print run?  I think it was clear from the post con sales that it would sell well enough and become collectible.

From Gant's auction description, it doesn't sound like there was any limit on the number of copies you could buy.  Well 2 copies per attendee per day on Ghost Tower limits you to only 8 copies

Just wondering about the "permission" on Ghost Tower too.  No claims on having permission from anyone to reprint?

Mars wrote:Any comments on why this one didn't get a bigger print run?  I think it was clear from the post con sales that it would sell well enough and become collectible.

From Gant's auction description, it doesn't sound like there was any limit on the number of copies you could buy.  Well 2 copies per attendee per day on Ghost Tower limits you to only 8 copies

Just wondering about the "permission" on Ghost Tower too.  No claims on having permission from anyone to reprint?

The limit on the Dwarven Glory was one per Attendee.  I know some of the attendees did not want it and sold the tickets to others.  There are not very many copies of the Dwarven Glory and it sold out.  

Around 18 or so copies of the DM inverness are to be destroyed (Maybe Doug could put up a video !)  So there around 88 or so of those kicking around.

MetamorphosisSigma wrote:I'm so glad someone else brought it up, so I didn't have to ask. I can't figure any way this could be kosher. On the other hand, by the time Doug receives the cease and desist letter he'll have already ceased and desisted .

It would make these items virtually worthless - they would essentially be forgeries so reselling them would problematic.  It would be the same as downloading the Orange B3 pdf and printing them up and selling them.

Using the word Forgery in this case is simply rediculous.  

A forgery by definaition is made as an attempt to fool others that it is an original item.
And there was never any attempt to do that at ALL, in fact, just the opposite is true.
The new printing date is on the first page.
The research copies are HALF the size of the original.
The research copy is also watermarked on ALL interior pages (including all maps, which are also half size) that make it quite obvious that it is not an original, that is if the size alone was not enough proof.

Not to pick on them, but I will return to your own example:
Insidious was made as a for profit item.
The Ghost Tower was not.
And it wont be reprinted again, while Insidious has had at least two printings.

Gnat the Beggar wrote:Using the word Forgery in this case is simply rediculous.  

First off the original looks NOTHING like the research copies.
The research copy is HALF the size of the original.
The research copy is watermarked on ALL interior pages (including all maps) that make it quite obvious that it is not an original, that if is the size alone was not enough proof.

Yes, "rediculous". You're right, calling them forgeries is slightly inaccurate, as there was no attempt to make them identical to the originals. Technically, I guess they're "unauthorized miniature reproductions" ... also a clear violation of copyright law.

Don't get me wrong; I'm not judging. I couldn't care less if WotC's entire back catalog of IP is compromised, and I would love to have digest size reproductions of all of the early modules (the size is easier to handle at the table). But somebody's got serious balls to pull something like this.