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Post Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:25 pm 
 

lawrenson wrote:Auction prices are odd - some lower-priced stuff is going for more than it should, as t&T are bidding on it. At the rpg auction yesterday they bid on nearly every single item. Isnt this really bid shilling, as they take a cut of every sale?

Worse than that IMHO since there's no way they can lose whereas an eBay shiller can end up having to pay fees on their own item.

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Post Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:04 pm 
 

lawrenson wrote:Hi,

2nd print woodie just sold for just under $1300
Uk John Blanche book went for $200.

Nothing else of note in the auction today.

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I thought it might go for 1500 but with the documented wear on the books I wouldn't have expected more than that (espescially with such a small bidder pool present).  Was that part of the charity portion of the auction Lawrenson?

I went through the auction store on Friday and really didn't see anything that couldn't be gotten on ebay for less.  I was hoping for a final spin through there but showed up an hour to late tonight (could have sworn the store closed at 8).

I'll have to check the Crazy Egors stuff tomorrow (nice stuff but a bit pricey when I looked Friday).


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Post Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:27 pm 
 

Xaxaxe wrote:Here's a fantastic GenCon rant:

http://drakesflames.blogspot.com/2009/0 ... encon.html


You call that a rant? Oh, please. I twitter meaner than that. Gen Con customer service staffers have complimented me on the "detail" of my complaints. I make enemies with cosplayers with my photo captions. That guy is an amateur.

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Post Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:46 pm 
 

Xaxaxe wrote:Here's a fantastic GenCon rant:

http://drakesflames.blogspot.com/2009/0 ... encon.html

(Be aware: some mild NSFW or children references)

The easily offended are sure to be ... well, offended ... but so much of it is so, so very true. And the comments are spot-on, too, especially the first one.

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Not that I don't wish I was there, of course. I'd go in a heartbeat ...  :)


"...Maybe it's because I work the show. That might be it - but I don't think so. My first year I wasn't working, and I hated GenCon. The first year I just cruised around the hall for four days, then went out and drank at night. That doesn't sound too bad, but it still sucked.

Or maybe it's because my idea of the perfect vacation is not going to some almost-a-big-city suffering from a drastic loss of industry, sweating my ass off walking around the only town I know more humid than Orlando, sharing a hotel room with more guys than we have beds, and spending sixteen hours a day playing games. Call me crazy, but I would prefer a nice beach, some rolling surf, and complimentary margaritas. At the price I pay for a booth, it could probably be cheaper...."

When you preface your review by paragraphs such as these, how could you not expect a negative review?

So if he hated it so much, why did he take the money to attend the con and share a room with three other people he did not want to be around. Hipocrasy all around...


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Post Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:42 am 
 

i dont understand how someone can have a view like that.

if i was on my own there, i guess after a day or so, i would prb get a little bored/tired of things.

the trick to an event like that is to either go with some friends/meet some there. you share the experience together and can be more involved with things and knowing others who are "on the inside" so to speak, also adds to how you view the event.

one of my favorite things is just looking for one thing that i dont really need, but i might just find...or sitting watching others in the auction. i love doing that and having friends there as well, is just a pure blast.

sitting with mike, jon, martin, brendon, jeff etc is just an experience you can't better - we have such a laugh with things, you simply cant beat it - and then add frank, tim etc to the equation and how can it be better?

then throw a game or three in and thats it - icing on the cake.

its strange how someone view can become so twisted on things though.

well i guess its not for everyone :)

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Post Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:53 pm 
 

Xaxaxe wrote:Here's a fantastic GenCon rant:

http://drakesflames.blogspot.com/2009/0 ... encon.html

(Be aware: some mild NSFW or children references)

The easily offended are sure to be ... well, offended ... but so much of it is so, so very true. And the comments are spot-on, too, especially the first one.

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Not that I don't wish I was there, of course. I'd go in a heartbeat ...  :)


This is pretty mean stuff.  It's "mean" in the sense of "small-minded" or "petty."  It's "mean" in the sense of "average" or "common."  It's "mean" in the sense of "pointless malice" or "selfish little act of cruelty."

Cruelty and sarcasm are what pass as funny on the lowest downslope of our collective intelligence bell curve.  It doesn't take a lot of talent to say the absolute meanest thing you can think of.


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Post Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:38 pm 
 

FormCritic wrote:
This is pretty mean stuff.  It's "mean" in the sense of "small-minded" or "petty."  It's "mean" in the sense of "average" or "common."  It's "mean" in the sense of "pointless malice" or "selfish little act of cruelty."

Cruelty and sarcasm are what pass as funny on the lowest downslope of our collective intelligence bell curve.  It doesn't take a lot of talent to say the absolute meanest thing you can think of.


I still think the best part is the guy sells shit....FOR GAMERS!  Nothing like insulting your core buying public. It's like if I ran a strip joint (yeh, I wish) and mingled with the crowd all the while insulting their perverted, lonely ass lifestyles, sad looking toupees, worthless jobs and meaningless existence that requires them to GIVE money to bored and less than interesting women for the right to watch them jiggle. And then I COMPLAIN about it all day.  Sheesh.

Maybe he'll get lucky next year and come down with prostate cancer and not have to go....

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Post Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:48 pm 
 

Badmike wrote:
I still think the best part is the guy sells shit....FOR GAMERS!  Nothing like insulting your core buying public.


Nah, most gamers have such low self-esteem that they'd take the abuse and still buy from the loser. You know, just like they do from WOTC.

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Post Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:46 pm 
 

Contrarian wrote: You know, just like they do from WOTC.


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Post Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:45 am 
 

Maybe he is lonely.  I do not go to cons or similar to dress, act and behave as if I am at work.  I also am not looking for a date, friend, or relationship.  Now... I am not saying the models dressed up as Everquest hotties are not interesting... but really... it's about the games.

Seems to me, if you are stable and responsible at home and work.... you probably go to enjoy to a culture of gamers...  and celebrate a culture of gamers.  Some of the best gaming I have experienced was with the smelliest and/or openly Asbergers Syndrome folks at conventions.  

I won't be buying a dice tower from the guy.  It's tempting to go stand beside his booth next year, hand out copies of the rant and ask potential customers if they are the smelly, whiney, nerd that he wrote about last year.  Unfortunately, it would probably call attention to his business and increase sales, which was likely the point of the rant.


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Post Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:50 am 
 

Pipswich wrote:.... you probably go to enjoy to a culture of gamers...  and celebrate a culture of gamers.  Some of the best gaming I have experienced was with the smelliest and/or openly Asbergers Syndrome folks at conventions.  


That is great for you.

While I do think the guy is way over the top, he does make some valid points. I have been attending conventions for 30 years and I can say that the hygene issue with gamers is an issue. Is it really such a hassle to jump in the shower each morning? I have enjoyed more than my share of 24 hour gaming marathons - but there is always time to take a shower and get a change of clothing.

The other stuff is just nonsense. Dressing up in costumes or utilikilts will never appeal to me. Never. But if that is what some people want to do, have at it. Just don't be offended when you get called out on it.


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Post Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:09 am 
 

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Dressing up in costumes or utilikilts will never appeal to me. Never.


And we all thank you for it.  :lol:

I will say that the number of stinkcows attending this year's Gencon was lower then in past year's.  Perhaps the economy is hitting stinkcows harder than other types of gamers.  

Also, I find myself offended by a great deal of the gamers at Gencon.  Hygene is a issue but so are manners and how one carries himself/herself.  Which is completely opposite of the gamers I've met through The Acaeum website.  

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Post Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:27 am 
 

bbarsh wrote:
That is great for you.

While I do think the guy is way over the top, he does make some valid points. I have been attending conventions for 30 years and I can say that the hygene issue with gamers is an issue. Is it really such a hassle to jump in the shower each morning? I have enjoyed more than my share of 24 hour gaming marathons - but there is always time to take a shower and get a change of clothing.

The other stuff is just nonsense. Dressing up in costumes or utilikilts will never appeal to me. Never. But if that is what some people want to do, have at it. Just don't be offended when you get called out on it.


There is some valid and funny criticism in there (stinky gamers) with a large dose of snarkiness.

The problem I had with it is the obvious contempt in the material for not only gamers but gaming. He states he hates Gencon, and wouldn't show up if he wasn't getting paid. What's he getting paid, 10 grand?  If I had some incredible displeasure for something, would I attend even if I got paid?  I mean, let's say you are invited to the National Quilting Convention in Jackson, Mississippi. No way in hell, right?  Four days of old ladies and quilts.  But hey, I'm PAYING you!  Honestly, at LEAST 10 g's would have to cross my palm before I said yes (and I would be drinking the entire time). Bitching about a paid trip to Gencon just makes me roll my eyes.

Sure there are a lot of freaks there. And socially malajudsted weirdos. Every been to a major sporting event?  Every been to a COLLEGE major sporting event?  Tons worse except for the extremely hot college chicks (which doesn't affect my opinion because unless you drive a lexus, your daddy makes a lot of money and you look like Brad Pitt you aren't going to come close to tagging any).  It would be like complaining you scored 50 yard line tickets to the Texas/Texas A&M game but hated going because of all the "wackos".  Really?

Unless the guy is getting paid some embarressingly small amount of cash he needs to stop complaining and take his medicine like a man. But I suspect most of the article is that well known device known as "sarcasm".

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Post Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:04 pm 
 

This dude makes and sells dice towers.  That pretty much says it all.  :roll:  

What might the least creative and talented person in gaming do if he wanted to have a gaming business?  Dice towers leaps to mind.   :salut:

If only Gary Gygax had thought of....dice towers!

I couldn't help posting a scathing reply.  I was playing his game and feeding the troll...I know it.  

I made myself feel better but all I accomplished was to demonstrate that cruelty and sarcasm do not require much talent.  Anyone can say something mean or evil...it takes no particular skill.  That's why so many rockers sing about Satan and "the darkside."  No talent required.  :pukel:

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This sexy dude sells dice towers.  8O

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